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Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  dkane on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:08 pm

Hi Guys,

I started mixing my own fuel back in the 1950's and sold it commercially into the 1990's under the brand name of Go Pop in Chicago.  At one time, I was making over 600 gallons of fuel per week.  Since I am running a lot of Cox engines again and no true Cox fuel is available other than the few cases of pint cans I have left, I decided to mix some Cox racing fuel for this year's Nats.  I have three L M Cox Mfg. formulas and today mixed up some race power fuel.  The results were unbelievable.  I put some fuel in my TeeDee .020 for the PaaLoad event this year and it screamed.  I was in the basement so I couldn't use my tach but it sure did sound strong.  

I am wondering if maybe I should get back into selling fuel.  Any suggestions on a good name and good price.  I would like to sell it in pint cans.  What do you guys think?

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  Admin on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:51 pm

I'm sure it would sell! If you're worried about making fuel that won't sell, you could have people pre-order first. I'm sure there are many guys on here that would love to give it a try!

I would still have the "Go Pop" brand somewhere on the can along with the fuel name.

a name that just came to mind "Thimble Drome Throwback - Race Power Fuel"
I'll try to think of some more names.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:11 pm

Dan,

A price of $8-10 a quart would be reasonable and in line with most current offerings. The big kicker would be shipping. Most places want $10 plus to ship a quart and even more if you order by the gallon.

If you can figure out a way to ship fuel cheaply while still keeping in line with Hazmat laws then it would sell very well.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  JayeLK on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:16 pm

How about "Power Bee Fuels"? Mix up a couple of the different grades, if you have the original formulae.

Wold be nice.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  Admin on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:39 pm

In case some of you guys didn't know, you can download a copy of the Cox fuel formulas here> http://www.coxengineforum.com/h24-instruction-sheets Scroll down to the "Other Documents" list.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  pkrankow on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:56 pm

I believe, but am not positive, that shipping in quarts avoids many haz-mat regs, as long as the total volume of the contained liquids is less than a certain amount (12 qt?). Of course you still need to research on your own.

I cite Brodak only selling quarts of fuel, and SIG for the shipping price difference between quarts and gallons making 4 quarts cost significantly less than 1 gallon.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  JPvelo on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:21 pm

How about "glow pop"?

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  microflitedude on Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:17 pm

A quart is a more desirable size, especially after shipping costs.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  batjac on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:06 pm

Admin wrote:In case some of you guys didn't know, you can download a copy of the Cox fuel formulas here> http://www.coxengineforum.com/h24-instruction-sheets Scroll down to the "Other Documents" list.

"For Race Power fuel, start with 700 gallons of #50000 fuel, add 38 gallons of castor, 168 gallons of nitro, and 4 gallons of Dow lube."

I couldn't use that much in two lifetimes.... Shocked

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  SuperDave on Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:37 pm

Personally I find the Cox 1/2A fuel now offered by Tower Hobbies @ $8/qt. quite satisfactory.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  Mark Boesen on Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:44 am

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forum!

I remember Go-Pop, I flew some slow combat in Chicago area briefly in the early 80's.

I used to use NITROTANE fuel, i think that was also made somewhere down state Illinois?


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Dave,
How long have you been running it? I gotta believe it's way under what would be Recommended oil content, 18% with 90% of that synthetic? I'd keep the needle on the rich side for sure.

(from Tower's Web site)
FEATURES: Premium blend 25% nitro formula is ideal for model airplane, car, or
           boat use
         Special 18% oil package consists of 90% synthetic, and 10% castor
           lubricant blend

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  SuperDave on Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:23 am

Mark:

Only four tanks so far. Rememeber I'm not big on max RPM on small props prefering wooden 6X3 and 6/4's of which I have marvelous "stash"; "Tornado's" to be specific.

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Re: Cox Fuel Reprise

Post  RknRusty on Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:55 pm

Mark Boesen wrote:.......Dave,
How long have you been running it? I gotta believe it's way under what would be Recommended oil content, 18% with 90% of that synthetic? I'd keep the needle on the rich side for sure.

(from Tower's Web site)
FEATURES: Premium blend 25% nitro formula is ideal for model airplane, car, or
           boat use
         Special 18% oil package consists of 90% synthetic, and 10% castor
           lubricant blend

Right, this is not enough castor for any sort of extended use. It will clean too much varnish off of the cylinder walls and the ball socket. And they need that unburnt castor passing through the exhaust to remove heat.

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