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Post  Davenz13 Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:31 pm

98 S1 Lightning. I bought this second hand with 828 miles showing on the clock. I guess the first owner didn't like it or it scared the bejeezes out of him.
Since this photo was taken I've fitted new White Lightning heads and pistons. I just love it. Smoking

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:05 pm

Something that is truly old man, here's my 1971 Honda CB100 now with SL125 motor restored from my college days (in 1979 bought in Honolulu, Hawaii):

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I rode it wide open at 55 mph to work 12 miles away. Co-workers asked me how the ride was. I tell them it was like the scooter ride on Dumb and Dumber. Wink

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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:09 pm

Lol.

I had the opportunity to ride a 1975 Husqvarna WR 250 this evening. Went to pick up some CL parts and was handed the bike to ride.

I have always wanted to ride one. They are rugged beasts, no frills or comfort. A man's MX!

Even with only 250cc it has gobs of torque. Can't imagine what the 400 pulls like. Now I want one. Rolling Eyes

If I can ever get my photo manager to load the picture I will post it.

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:53 pm

I used to ride a single cylinder 650, the Suzuki Savage. Talk about gobs of torque, it certainly had it.
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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:16 am

I am sure it had.

2 strokes and 4 strokes are different animals. Power bands are much different. I have ridden both and for shear power out of the gate I would choose a 2 stroke any day. My first real bike was a 2 stroke Yamaha RD 350, my second was a Honda CB 550K. Even though the 550 was substantially bigger the smaller RD scared me.

I posted the picture, take a look at the size of the sprocket. MX bikes are geared low. They pull like a train, but top out quickly. I imagine the Husky would only go 50-55mph.

I rode a Honda CR 500 MX when I was 17, somewhere out there is a picture of me throwing up huge mud rooster tails with my little 150lb body laying over the tank with my legs hanging off the back fender so I could keep the front wheel down.

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:56 am

I'd understand. On an MX track, you only have short distances on the straight away for speed, rest is in cornering and jumping hills. Ability for speed is different than for a black top track bike. That RD350 was probably a better comparison to a 700 cc 4 stroke than the 550. I've been told half the size in 2 stroke is roughly equivalent to a 4 stroke. Also 2 stroke usually has higher red line.

Those with MX experience I am told make better street bikers, because you know better what to do when cornering, because of learning how to handle loss of traction as with dirt. I don't have dirt experience and some probably feel I am conservative in corners, but I looked at my tourer's tires and can see some extra cornering wear from pushing it a little.

The worst ride beats the best day of work. lol!
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Post  Ken Cook Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:03 pm

The Fox likes to be over primed to start sometimes. This can cause the prop to stop and bump extremely hard. When this happens it can slice you pretty darn good. This is why it's a good practice to wear the glove. I've had a few of them break wood props over my finger. I can only tell you this makes you say words you really didn't even know you knew. Sanding all APC, Master Airscrews is a prerequisite. It has to be done or your going to slice yourself badly. I use a bowling ball finger sizer for a finger protector. This slips on the finger and is made of silicone rubber. A piece of heater hose works but the silicone has a good feel to it allowing you to adjust the needle as well if you use the same finger. The best solution is to backflip the engine and all these issues essentially go away. This takes a bit of practice. I can start them just by gliding my fingers off of the prop blades. Ken
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Post  GallopingGhostler Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:50 pm

Thanks Ken for bringing the topic back into being. Fox is not the only engine that kicks. I sliced a finger really good on the McCoy 35RH by not using a glove or chicken stick. And you are right about sanding the back side of the blade. I've cut myself flipping a prop with a sharp back edge.

Duke Fox earlier (while still alive) on the instructions to my Fox 25RC (the older plain bearing baffle piston one) recommended wood props, because they hurt you less.
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Post  GWILLIEFOX Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:44 pm

Get the Fox ready to go, battery connected, etc. Grab the prop firmly and pull the engine through compress while you are holding it. When you feel a bump, flip the prop.
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Post  Ken Cook Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:52 pm

This is what I use on my fingers when I'm flipping high powered 15's. http://www.bowlingball.com/products/accessories/turbo-2-n-1-grips/4475/quad-finger-inserts.html I get the fluorescent colored ones like orange or yellow. Ken
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Post  GallopingGhostler Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:42 pm

Ken Cook wrote:This is what I use on my fingers when I'm flipping high powered 15's. http://www.bowlingball.com/products/accessories/turbo-2-n-1-grips/4475/quad-finger-inserts.html  I get the fluorescent colored ones like orange or yellow. Ken

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Very practical cost effective solution, Ken.
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