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Post  jsesere on Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:57 am

This is suppose to be a Tee Dee .020, but doesn't look right. No gold crankcase and a throttle or am I just having memory problems.
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Post  Admin on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:26 pm

Looks like it has a .020 glow head.

Some are anodized lighter than others. Throttle rings were also made for .020s.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:08 pm

That isn't the most clear picture, but it certainly looks like the case is gold to me. The throttle ring is easy to swap around if using an R/C Pee Wee cylinder. While not original it's easy to change and those RC .020 cylinders have value.

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Post  RknRusty on Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:20 pm

Looks gold on my display too.

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Post  getback on Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:45 pm

Can U return it if not an .020 but it does look like one ????????? can't see the color here Pic too small !!@??
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Post  jsesere on Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:29 pm

I asked for a better picture.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:33 pm

It surely is a gold case, if the price is fair grab it. Put a regular .020 cylinder on it and sell it. Put the .020 cylinder with the throttle ring on a Pee Wee, sell it and double your money.
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:49 pm

Looks like the person made a control horn for the standard Cox throttle ring by mounting it using the two holes in the C ring, which normal are where control rod to servo goes. That is one way to make the engine throttle-able.
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Post  jsesere on Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:57 pm

Much better picture. Tee Dee .020 Lkj10
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:10 pm

Of interest is the custom red anodized 4-bolt aluminum engine mount back. The standard non-tank back is plastic 2-bolt. Looks like you have a rarity there.
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Post  1/2A Nut on Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:29 am

You have a clear cut winner do not pass it up. TD .020 is much better than a Pee Wee any day.
In the first pic he has a 4.5x2 prop second close up looks like a 3 blade prop.

A TD .020 with a pee wee throttle sleeve is worth much more then a pee wizzer with a throttle sleeve.
More power longer run time for rc use. Pee wiz runs out of fuel fast, hard to set a good needle and
is heavy. I only buy them to use the fresh cylinders and pistons for my TD's.


I have 5 of those machined back plates and aluminum carb bodies here is
an example next to a stock engine both with gold cases. Guy on ebay use
to sell them he no longer does.
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Post  roddie on Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:13 pm

Remembering CEF member Joe Cesere. We miss you Joe. Christmas Tree

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I felt it appropriate to ask a Cox .020 engine question here in his thread;

Did Cox ever make a high-compression glow-head for their Tee Dee engine variants? Did Cox ever make specially-ported (boost-ported) cylinders for their Tee Dee engine variants?

I assume that the Cox "Pee Wee" (reed-valve) .020 engine was designed prior to the Tee Dee (rotary-valve) variant.. but that's purely speculation on my part.

I also wonder about the .09/.15 engines. Cox didn't make reed-valve variants of those.. but there were Medallions and Tee Dee's in both displacements. Were there specially-ported cylinders and/or high-compression glow-heads that separated the Medallion engines from the Tee Dee engines?
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:44 pm

I can't say about the Tee Dee's, only have one, an .020 and rest Medallions. Both my .09 and .049 Medallions have SPI and only one bypass port. These are the earlier ones. The .049 cylinder resembles the Babe Bee one, may even be the same one, I don't know. Recently someone clarified that the heads with the knurled inner ring around the glow head electrode post is the Tee Dee high compression one, which is also suitable for the other Cox engines. (May need an extra gasket or two to tweak compression level.) I've got a few donor 290 engines. Interestingly enough, a couple have the Tee Dee head on them.

This is why I'm not afraid to try dual port non-SPI cylinder and throttle ring muffler on my .049 Medallion. Same type setup provided more power on my late 1970's R/C Bee than a Babe Bee, so it should do fine on the Medallion as well, converting it to a decent .049 RC engine.
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Post  roddie on Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:00 pm

Thanks George.. interesting info. There are so many possibilities for building a Cox engine to perform the way you need it to!
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:43 pm

You're welcome Roddy. BTW, noticed how Joe Cesere is dressed. Was he in his absence canonized to CEF sainthood? sunny drunken lol!
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:44 pm

In a word “No”

The Pee Wee and TD cylinders are identical... dual bypass. There are .020 heads that are plain and some that have knurling like the TD .049/.051 .09 and .15 however, the combustion shape is identical to the non-knurled .020 head.

The are only high comp heads for .049/.051, .09 and .15.


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Post  batjac on Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:48 pm

roddie wrote:I also wonder about the .09/.15 engines. Cox didn't make reed-valve variants of those.. but there were Medallions and Tee Dee's in both displacements. Were there specially-ported cylinders and/or high-compression glow-heads that separated the Medallion engines from the Tee Dee engines?

I must beg to differ. While I know of no .09 reed valve engines produced by Cox, the Olympic and Sportsman .15 engines were rear reed valve induction engines, much like the .049 Space Hopper.

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Post  Oldenginerod on Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:05 pm

GallopingGhostler wrote:You're welcome Roddy. BTW, noticed how Joe Cesere is dressed. Was he in his absence canonized to CEF sainthood? sunny drunken lol!

I have to say, no disrespect, but do we have a better picture of Joe to remember him by?
Nothing against Nuns (well?? maybe those with beards?? Laughing ) but is that the image we want to be left with?
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Post  Ken Cook on Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:00 pm

I was running my TD .15's today. I have to say they're pretty neat running engines. They sound awesome. The Medallion .15's and the TD .15's have different porting just like the smaller variants. The Medallion has the single port while the TD's have the dual bypass. My TD .15's run on Medallion glow heads. I have only have a few TD .15 plugs left. Just like the smaller versions, the knurling on the top indicates high comp vs standard. I would like to have a head with turbo plugs in them as I think this would offer similar stock performance.
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:30 pm

[quote="roddie"]Remembering CEF member Joe Cesere. We miss you Joe.  Christmas Tree  

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I felt it appropriate to ask a Cox .020 engine question here in his thread;


Joe was one of the good ones and is missed!
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Post  66 Malibu on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:45 am

I have 4 Medallion .15 engines that I accumulated over a 5-6 year span from various people.
The earliest ( I believe) and by far the most abused had the Medallion single bypass cylinder (and wrist pin piston) you mentioned.
The other three have 2 bypass ports and a wrist pin piston like a TD .15.
I thought I remember reading somewhere that Cox must have just used the on hand TD units rather than do another production run of single bypass Medallion cylinders.
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Ken Cook wrote:        I was running my TD .15's today. I have to say they're pretty neat running engines. They sound  awesome. The Medallion .15's and the TD .15's have different porting just like the smaller variants. The Medallion has the single port while the TD's have the dual bypass. My TD .15's run on Medallion glow heads. I have only have a few TD .15 plugs left. Just like the smaller versions, the knurling on the top indicates high comp vs standard. I would like to have a head with turbo plugs in them as I think this would offer similar stock performance.
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:34 pm

Oldenginerod wrote:
GallopingGhostler wrote:You're welcome Roddy. BTW, noticed how Joe Cesere is dressed. Was he in his absence canonized to CEF sainthood? sunny drunken lol!
I have to say, no disrespect, but do we have a better picture of Joe to remember him by? Nothing against Nuns (well?? maybe those with beards?? Laughing ) but is that the image we want to be left with?
Rod, I really don't know Joe and it appears at this point he was quite the clown with a good sense of humour. I don't know where that photo came along, but I don't think that others found it somewhere and posted it here. I'm being a little presumptuous, but thought may be that Joe himself posted the photo somewhere here himself.
(Is that not true, Roddie?) lol!

Cribbs74 wrote:The Pee Wee and TD cylinders are identical... dual bypass. There are .020 heads that are plain and some that have knurling like the TD .049/.051 .09 and .15 however, the combustion shape is identical to the non-knurled .020 head.
Difference in power between the Pee Wee and Tee Dee .020's seem to mirror the difference between the Black Widow and Tee Dee .049's.

Both .020's are neat engines. I liked the Pee Wee because it is a torque engine, will spin larger props with ease whereas the Tee Dee likes smaller props and higher RPM's. Seems to be a renaissance with the smaller engines these days. I've noticed that E-Bay bids on the 1/4-A's seem still to do well.
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Post  roddie on Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:42 pm

The photo of Joe Cesere dressed as a nun is one that (I believe..) "he" originally posted here. I saved it at that time; thinking that it was humorous. I have no other photos of Joe.. but I'd bet that he would want to be remembered in a way that would make us smile. I meant no disrespect.. and am very sorry if any of you took offense.
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:55 pm

roddie wrote:The photo of Joe Cesere dressed as a nun is one that (I believe..) "he" originally posted here. I saved it at that time; thinking that it was humorous. I have no other photos of Joe.. but I'd bet that he would want to be remembered in a way that would make us smile. I meant no disrespect.. and am very sorry if any of you took offense.
Roddie, I don't think anyone truly took offense. You'll even noticed that Rod put a smiley with a sense of humor, "Nothing against Nuns (well?? maybe those with beards??  Laughing )". I was a little clueless, because I really didn't know Joe, so what I said was to be taken with a sense of great humor. Very Happy
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