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Went to an engine show and brought home an engine

Post  Admin on Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:10 pm

This past weekend I went to the Little Log House Pioneer Village Antique Power Show, the same place I brought the World's Smallest Traveling Engine last year. You can see classic cars, engines, tractors, war reenactments, bank robbery reenactments, working sawmill, and power plant as well as other old buildings that were moved there such as late 1800s/early 1900s bank, jail, general store, dentist, saloon, train station... I video taped the entire morning tractor parade which took out the battery in my iphone. I'll have that up on YouTube shortly.

They also have a flea market where I picked this up for $10:



I go to several flea markets/antique shows a year and I rarely come across Cox engines. At least not by themselves, If I see one it's usually on a $300 Prop Rod or a $600 NIB P-40 Warhawk. So I even get exited when I come across something like a common Babe Bee.

Although it wasn't frozen and could be turned over slowly and the glow head and cylinder were able to be removed by hand, this was one of the most gummed up engines I've come across in a long time.




Venturi plugged solid and hard as a rock.


I had to use a heat gun, a small drill bit and some torch tip cleaners to get it out. The backplate wasn't easy to unclog either.


While giving it a closer inspection, it appears as if it took a hard crash or fell off a workbench. The nose of the crankcase is slightly deformed and the driveplate has some road rash on part of its face. There doesn't seem to be any significant side to side play but there is a little crankshaft friction.

After a cleanup with an overnight alcohol bath, Noxon 7 metal polish and q-tips and paper towels, I had it back together and ready for it's first run in years.



And here it is running, maybe it's first run in 30 years (the glow head is post 1979)!



I have some videos that I'll have to upload. My tach needs a new 9v so I didn't get a reading, however it sounded like it was running strong.

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Post  NEW222 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:58 pm

Ok. Stupid question time. Is that the reed and reed retainer beside the fuel tank in the third picture? If it is, all I can say is WOW! I have never seen one like that before, nor do I think I ever will again. You should get an award for the most gum found inside a gummed up engine.
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Post  dckrsn on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:07 pm

If that girl was any more gummed up,
she'd be encased. Good one Jacob.
When I see one like in the before photo,
I get a little giddy. Recovering these old
Bees is a rush, for sure.
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Post  RknRusty on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:08 pm

Looks like someone used bar & chain oil for after-run oil.... and the case was full of fuel too. Mercy. Nice to see the prop spin again.

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Post  rsv1cox on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:13 pm

Looking at the fifth picture I was sure the crank shaft was bent or at least the prop drive washer was off kilter, but I guess not the case as it looks to be running smoothly without vibration.

Nice job on the recovery.
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Post  akjgardner on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:17 pm

Good Save Dude
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Re: Went to an engine show and brought home an engine

Post  dckrsn on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:32 pm

Is thas a #6 cylinder? Just a curious.  
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Post  Admin on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:37 pm

NEW222 wrote:Ok. Stupid question time. Is that the reed and reed retainer beside the fuel tank in the third picture? If it is, all I can say is WOW! I have never seen one like that before, nor do I think I ever will again. You should get an award for the most gum found inside a gummed up engine.

Yes, LOL that's the reed and reed retainer. I had to soak it in order to separate the reed from the retainer. I thought the reed looked creased so I left it in the parts washer jar and just put a new one in the engine.

I just fished it from the parts washer jar. That gummy crap still hasn't dissolved.




Yeah...the reed is damaged pretty good. Too bad because I like these old copper star reeds.


rsv1cox wrote:Looking at the fifth picture I was sure the crank shaft was bent or at least the prop drive washer was off kilter, but I guess not the case as it looks to be running smoothly without vibration.

The case has some kind of distortion/damage at the end of its nose. Not sure how that happened, not sure if it was in a crash or it hit the floor or what. I had the driveplate off it and the crankshaft out of it. The crankshaft is straight without damage. The damage did seem to cause the crankshaft to feel a little tight in the case, not tight enough that I didn't think it would run. After running it a few times it seems to be smooth as it should be again. I have a stash of narrow neck cases if it happened to need a new one, either that or the engine would become a parts-engine. So far it seems to be fine though.


dckrsn wrote:Is thas a #6 cylinder? Just a curious.  
Bob

No, it's a regular single bypass/sub piston induction cylinder, like the #2.

It does have a short needle if no one has noticed yet... Paranoid then again we don't judge an engine by the size of it's needle do we Laughing

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Post  rsv1cox on Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:00 am

I noticed that needle but failed to comment. I have never seen another like it. Are they rare or had that one been modified in some way?
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Re: Went to an engine show and brought home an engine

Post  getback on Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:12 am

Good One Jacob , Nice to see her running again !! Bob from my understanding the short needle valve came from a car Don't recall which one ? Ii like the star reeds and narrow neck cases also Wink
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Re: Went to an engine show and brought home an engine

Post  roddie on Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:23 pm

getback wrote:Good One Jacob , Nice to see her running again !! Bob from my understanding the short needle valve came from a car Don't recall which one ? Ii like the star reeds and narrow neck cases also Wink  

Yes.. that cleaned-up nice.. and well worth the $ IMHO. I assume that the rod/piston is the ball/socket type and not a "3-piece" one? The innards were dirtier than I've ever seen! Almost like it sat for years with a full tank of fuel?? What did the fuel-line look like when you opened it up?

Doug's CEF EOM photo of his "Vette" almost looks to use that short needle like Eric mentioned. If the rear-body was lifted-open a little higher, we'd know for sure.

What a beautiful model!! That looks like the early "large-knob" needle to me..



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Re: Went to an engine show and brought home an engine

Post  roddie on Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:55 am

Yup.. Cox International stocks an OEM short-needle that fits the car engine..



https://coxengines.ca/8283-cox-.049-buick-riviera-corvette-needle-valve.html
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