Re: Mattel HotWheels

rsv1cox Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:23 pm

Agreed CB, closely resembles my '67 Plymouth Sport Fury in a more expensive stylish way.

Bob

roddie Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:13 pm

Somehow I knew that posting that 62 Plymouth Savoy would light a fire in this thread. Smile

The "Savoy" name was a reference to a fine hotel in London, England. Mopar used the badge from the early 1950's through the mid 60's.. and on differing-platforms. The intermediate-size 1962-64 Plymouth Savoys would lend themselves popular to being "fleet-vehicles".. taxi's.. highway-patrol.. available in engine displacements from the venerable 3.7L/225 cu. in. inline "slant" six.. 318. 361 and 383 cu. in. OHV V8 engines with either a 3-sp. manual gearbox or a 3sp. automatic transmission.

No doubt; this 1962 police-interceptor would have had the 383 engine.. and possibly other Heavy-duty/High-performance upgrades.. back in a time when vehicular-pursuits were commonplace.

I'd like to imagine my little model having been equipped with the Chrysler Max Wedge 413 cu. in. engine option. The 1962-64 cars with the Max Wedge engine option are said to be the 1st real American Muscle-Cars (intermediate body-class, equipped with a big-block engine) before Ford or GM; who did not offer a big-block engine until the 1963 model year.

The Mopars (Dodge and Plymouth) didn't have a production manual gearbox that would handle the power that those engines produced (413V8/410HP 426V8/415HP) Chrysler had designed those engines for NHRA drag-racing.. but a few hundred found their way into door-slammers that you could buy (or maybe COPO) at a Mopar dealership.. as early probably as Fall of 1961. The first street-sleepers...

Web reference links below;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Savoy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Wedge

roddie Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:44 pm

Robert,

I stand with Ron on defending the styling-cues of the subject.. Laughing

(heck.. we mostly all agree on aircraft styling!) Before I was school-age.. I knew (could call by make/model) every domestic (N. American) car/light-truck on the road. Regarding Mopars; my earliest ride in one, was my Uncle Vin's (mom's younger brother) who earlier had a Studebaker Champion with fringe hanging across the top of the windshield.. Smile

A (I think..) 1965 Plymouth Fury (black as I remember-318V8) was his 2nd car. This would have been around 1970.. (I was 10) and he had recently bought the 65 MGB. He's currently going through the B to put it on the road. Had to source some SS shims for the front-end.. (king-pins/spindles? 1965 British-Leyland) You and Ron are familiar with this..

Oldenginerod Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:34 pm

roddie wrote:

"It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas."

Sorry, couldn't resist Cool

Oldenginerod Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:48 pm

Actually, I owned one of these back in the day.

Bought one, pulled it apart, bought two more for parts, lost interest, parted them all out at swap meets. I don't regret it, but I'd have another one if the opportunity arose.

rsv1cox Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:15 am

That was the era that manufacturers were changing styles almost every year. Ford was a good example. I loved the '61, hated the '62, loved the '63. Loved it so much that I bought one.

Talking to myself it went something like this - Beautiful!!! two door hardtop, burgundy and cream, love it! Want it!! But it's a six with three on the tree. Don't care, want it. Drove it home, shifting through traffic, struggling to keep up. Traded it off the next day.

I can't find a picture of one just like it. Closest I could come - doesn't come close to expressing it's beauty. Didn't keep it long enough to snap a picture of my own.

getback Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:53 am

that's funny Not enough power to pull it self out of traffic Snowman

I like the styles of old wish they would bring back some the cars that LOOK like they mean business Devil

rsv1cox Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:07 am

I have to plead guilty to loving beautiful women, beautiful cars, beautiful scenery. Grunge and me don't get along.

But to look at me - I'm the personification of grunge. Sad

Sweat pants, sweat shirt, faded ripped jeans and cargo shorts, haven't had a haircut in months. That's me.

crankbndr Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:49 am

Around 1972 i bought this,1964 Galaxy 500XL. Same color and like new. 390 three speed auto highway cruiser. Factory air was rare then, unit was tucked under dash in front of console. Buckets and chrome everywhere. Had Fords chrome rally wheels not caps like photo. Loved it but got t-boned and totaled after a few months. Back then you could get a really nice used car for a few paychecks.

KariFS Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:04 pm

Oldenginerod wrote:Actually, I owned one of these back in the day.

Bought one, pulled it apart, bought two more for parts, lost interest, parted them all out at swap meets. I don't regret it, but I'd have another one if the opportunity arose.

’61 or ’62 Valiant? A friend’s father had a Valiant Station Wagon of that body style in the late ’80s. A barn find he got running and sold on. I walked around it a couple of times, tried to find an angle from where it would look pretty, but couldn’t. It was definitely cool though, faded red exterior, red vinyl interior, original hub caps and all. Six cylinder, three on the tree. Ugly duckling if there ever was one, and this one was not about to turn into a swan either Smile

I sort of wanted it although it was way before the times when old stw’s were considered cool.

Marleysky Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:46 pm

OK back on topic !

anyone interested in a full case of Hot Wheels Barney Mobile, or Freds Car? ? this is at a local Auction house with a 18% buyers fee attached to each Item bought ...AND sold. so they get 36% of the sell price plus a $5 listing fee.
auction ends 12/17 about 6pm

roddie Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:28 pm

Marleysky wrote:OK back on topic !

anyone interested in a full case of Hot Wheels Barney Mobile, or Freds Car? ? this is at a local Auction house with a 18% buyers fee attached to each Item bought ...AND sold. so they get 36% of the sell price plus a $5 listing fee.
auction ends 12/17 about 6pm

Remember the Hanna-Barbera intro; where Fred had ordered a rack of Brontosaurus ribs at the Bedrock Drive-in/Car-hop? The waitress put it on the driver's-door tray.. and the car tipped-over.. Laughing

"Welch's" grape jelly was a sponsor.. and they used to show the beginning of their ad on the Bedrock drive-in movie screen. It was brilliant marketing and Welch's also sold grape jelly in small sealed juice-glasses with Flintstone characters printed on them.

Some of you remember those glasses.. I'm sure.

roddie Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:53 pm

Oldenginerod wrote:Actually, I owned one of these back in the day.

Bought one, pulled it apart, bought two more for parts, lost interest, parted them all out at swap meets. I don't regret it, but I'd have another one if the opportunity arose.

Hey Rod! The slant-6 was a terrific engine. They would typically turn the odometer over twice.. (200K mi.) and then some.. if you changed the motor-oil/filter at the recommended intervals. There aren't too many similar-vintage gasoline engines that can compare with that. The 1st generation (1940's) Dodge "Power-Wagon" 4WD trucks saw WWII military service.. and were extremely dependable. As of recent; my younger brother (Jeff) is ISO a cab/chassis.. to build into some sort of off-road utility-vehicle.

Here's a photo of one he was eyeing..

crankbndr Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:38 am

The background in photo is the high banks of Daytona. They actually raced these!!

roddie Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:10 pm

OH.. you know... I had to buy this..

There was a recent Flintstones cartoon reference; perhaps in the Music Vids.. thread?

Welch's (grape Jam/juice) was a sponsor of the Hanna-Barbera production.. and marketed their grape-jam/jelly in small drinking glasses having Flintstones prints on them.

rsv1cox Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:17 pm

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crankbndr Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:10 pm

I can remember Fred puffing on a Winston. “Winston tastes good like a cigarette should “ I had a set of those drinking glasses too

roddie Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:44 pm

A 2nd gen. "Johnny Lightning" offering. I couldn't resist this one either.. Rolling Eyes

409 cu. in. OHV V8 big-block.. (probably a solid (pre-hydraulic) lifter engine?) I think was replaced by the 396 and 427 cu. in. V8 engines, going into the mid/later 1960's.

A few months ago I posted a Hot Wheels Premium/Fast & Furious series/red 1961 Impala. I've always loved the early Chevy Impala's. Not quite as fast in the quarter mile as the Corvettes and Chevelles of the era were.. but.. (finish this sentence if you're a vintage Chevy person..)

roddie Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:48 pm

roddie wrote:One of my recent splurges; these metal/metal premium/themed models are more expensive. I don't have many of them.. but this 1961 Chevy spoke to me.

Bump

roddie Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:49 pm

roddie wrote:
Ken Cook wrote: Good memories there Roddie. My dad owned a 61 just like your Hot Wheels. His was red as well. I remember the car like yesterday. It had a 348 cu inch V-8 and it was a 3 speed car. It would roast the tires off. We went out one night to a shopping mall and when we came out someone had stolen it. He was devastated, I loved that car. The police found it, the engine was replaced with a real hunk of crap. He told me to get into the car one night and we drove it to this house and sold it to a older gentleman. The next car he bought was a 65 Galaxie XL 500.

Hi Ken, Nothing compares to the feeling of having something stolen from you. My family went through our share of that when I was a young boy. We lived in a very rural section of town where it was particularly easy to get away with stealing.. and not be seen or get caught. The scariest was having our home broken-into. We didn't have much of value.. but the little that we "did have" had been compromised. I've never stolen anything from anywhere or anyone. I know how your dad felt when that car was stolen.

Here's a photo from my archives of a full-size Chevy that might have looked similar to your dad's.

This is actually a 62 BelAir with (I think) a 409 V8

Here's a great vid..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSyb4mcvNnk

Bump..

crankbndr Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:12 pm

Not as fast as a Corvette but had a LARGE back seat. Much dislike by many fathers.

dckrsn Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:25 pm

I had a 63 Belair wagon in high school.
283, 3 on the tree. Lots of dna. Smoking

Bob

roddie Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:57 pm

roddie wrote:A 2nd gen. "Johnny Lightning" offering. I couldn't resist this one either..

409 cu. in. OHV V8 big-block.. (probably a solid (pre-hydraulic) lifter engine?) I think was replaced by the 396 and 427 cu. in. V8 engines, going into the mid/later 1960's.

A few months ago I posted a Hot Wheels Premium/Fast & Furious series/red 1961 Impala. I've always loved the early Chevy Impala's. Not quite as fast in the quarter mile as the Corvettes and Chevelles of the era were.. but.. (finish this sentence if you're a vintage Chevy person..)

bump (got side-tracked..)

Marleysky Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:14 pm

roddie wrote:
roddie wrote:A 2nd gen. "Johnny Lightning" /red 1961 Impala. I've always loved the early Chevy Impala's. Not quite as fast in the quarter mile as the Corvettes and Chevelles of the era were.. but.. (finish this sentence if you're a vintage Chevy person..)

Better than drivin' a FORD ! !

roddie Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:34 pm

dckrsn wrote:I had a 63 Belair wagon in high school.
283, 3 on the tree. Lots of dna.
Bob

My 1st car was our family's 69 Chevy Kingswood (not a Kingswood Estate..) wagon that my dad retired because the rear (tailgate) window was stuck down.. and Winter was approaching.. Shocked

The "Kingswood" didn't have the exterior wood-siding.. as the Kingswood Estate had. The "Townsman" and "Brookwood" were lower-scale wagons on that same platform. The "Kingswood" came with a roof-rack.. and upgraded interior trim with wood-grained accents on the dash and door-panels.

That car sat in the side-yard for 2 years.. before I rescued it. I was late for the party.. getting my driver's license. I was 18.. but I finally got the need for my own wheels. I fixed the tailgate latch/interlock for the power-window.. bought a Holley/GM 2bbl. replacement carb. for the 327, and a Maremont Cherrybomb-Q turbo muffler for the single-exhaust. Uniroyal "Tiger-Paw" raised-white lettered tires on gloss-black steel rims.. chrome lugs and trim-rings. I bought/installed a $300.00 stereo which; back in 1979.. was significant. I spray-bombed the car FLAT BLACK! Laughing

My late friend Jim D. named it "The Steel Pussy".

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