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Post  Ken Cook on Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:52 pm

I'm quite knowledgeable about these engines just from purchases over the years. However, something I noted in my collection. First these engines seem to multiply over the years. Second, the grungiest ugliest looking engine is the best runner, it's Murphy's law. I just found a box I had and when I opened it up, I had about 12 Babe Bees in it. One looks to be brand new never mounted, fueled or run. Most of the others look to be Frankenstein versions as I did whatever I needed to do as a kid to keep them going. I was overjoyed to find them as I knew I had them somewhere. At the same time, I felt like what did I do to these poor engines. The paper route didn't seem to generate a whole lot of cash back in the day. I would like to see some examples from the 50's to the 70's if someone has some good pics. Ken
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Post  Mark Boesen on Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:08 pm


this show most of production changes, it's from the mid 60's

C.1956 early version

C. 1957 from a Super Cub 105

C. 1962 note flange groove for starter spring at base of cylinder
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Post  Ken Cook on Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:00 pm

Mark, thanks for taking the time to post that. Ken
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:42 am

as a kid in grade school i used to swap out parts as well, not sure what i was looking for just thought it was fun, had a couple strong runners, probably were dual port and i didn't even know.
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:49 am

Mark Boesen wrote:as a kid in grade school i used to swap out parts as well, not sure what i was looking for just thought it was fun, had a couple strong runners, probably were dual port and i didn't even know.

All this talk about porting got me to examine all my Cox .049's. I've got an older dual port thin cylinder without wrench flats Babe Bee, not sure where it came from. There were no Black Widows during its time of manufacture. I might have swapped out the back of a postage stamp 190 when a crashed RTF became a donor and I thrashed or ruined a Babe Bee cylinder. The mind gets fuzzy after 40+ years. Doh!
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Post  Ken Cook on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:10 am

Just out of curiousity, was the babe Bee offered with the QRC with dual ports? Looking into my box of engines, I remember one that always stood out from the others. I removed the plug and it too had dual ports. It doesn't have a #1 stamp on the cylinder. My father though always kept parts and I have the muffler that would've come with the QRC. He doesn't recall if indeed it was or wasn't. He looked at me funny and mentioned that stuff has been in that box for 30 years.
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:29 am

i'll look tonite, i have a test review of it. I think it did, it also had (i think) a hicomp head and if i remember correctly it was only a several hundred RPM lower.
EDIT: oops, that the QZ, the QRC i'd don't know, i have one, but since i got it used can't say 100%, I'd almost think not?
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Post  Ken Cook on Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:30 pm

Mark, I meant the QZ. I got confused. Indeed the QZ. Looking in the box I also have one of the early Bees with the 3 piece piston. I noticed it due to the exhaust ports being so much smaller than the others.
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:04 pm

i'll post the test review, it'll be interesting to read it again.
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Post  getback on Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:05 pm

Ken Cook wrote:        Just out of curiousity, was the babe Bee offered with the QRC with dual ports? Looking into my box of engines, I remember one that always stood out from the others. I removed the plug and it too had dual ports. It doesn't have a #1 stamp on the cylinder. My father though always kept parts and I have the muffler that would've come with the QRC. He doesn't recall if indeed it was or wasn't. He looked at me funny and mentioned that stuff has been in that box for 30 years.
That's a Knee slapper !! Sounds like when i ask my DAd what kind of engines he use to run , and the 50 yr ago face came on Laughing gotta love it ! O i can't wait sometime i get that feeling .
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Post  getback on Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:10 pm

Mark Boesen wrote:i'll post the test review, it'll be interesting to read it again.
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Post  GallopingGhostler on Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:59 am

Peter Chinn wrote another similar article in May 1967 Aeromodeller.

Sceptre Flight Model Engine Tests - Cox 049 QZ

Engine puts out 0.065 HP at 15,000 RPM. This contrasts with the Babe Bee, which puts out 0.55 HP at 13,300 RPM with SPI.

One thing I noticed that the R/C Bee with exhaust throttle muffler, a successor to the QZ ran stronger than a Babe Bee on my Minnie Mambo. It was fun to do rudder only stunting with this engine.
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