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Post  rsv1cox on Sun May 26, 2019 11:27 am

I found a unique British BB gun Dad, but it's $800.

What else did you find? Well, there were these two Cox planes, a really beat PT-19 and a foam plane but he wanted $50 so I passed.

Why?

Well, the boxes were ripped and the PT was missing the engine.

Go back and offer $35 and I will pay you.

Later.

Well I offered $30 and he took it. I started to leave and he said to take the rest of the stuff and pulled out three more boxes.

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Plus another box of props, control line handles, glow plugs, etc.

Looks like a hurler Fox in there. A total of nine engines. - Thirty bucks.
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Post  Kim on Sun May 26, 2019 11:42 am

SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn!
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Post  NEW222 on Sun May 26, 2019 2:40 pm

Very nice find and haul there!
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Post  Marleysky on Sun May 26, 2019 3:16 pm

ZOWIE!What a find!  Sure is nice to have an extra pair of eyes looking out for bargains like these! !
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Post  David S on Sun May 26, 2019 8:41 pm

Wow! You did good! I have been lucky at flea markets too!
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun May 26, 2019 10:50 pm

Love those Flea Markets!
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Post  Admin on Sun May 26, 2019 11:11 pm

Great score! I've had my share of finds at flea markets, but not as much as you. $30 was a great deal!

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Post  rsv1cox on Mon May 27, 2019 5:55 am

Looks like one of the QZ's came out of the EZ Bee, the other one who knows.  I don't think they ever put a QZ in the PT-19 which looks to be an early model with the enclosed nose.  Good to see a Black Widow in there.  The Fox looks to be a .35.

What I find curious is the BB with the red anodized? cylinder.  Will know more this afternoon when I pick them up.

I think the missing landing gear and firewall for the PT19 are in there.

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Post  getback on Mon May 27, 2019 10:01 am

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That's all i got !! cheers cheers sunny
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Post  roddie on Mon May 27, 2019 8:07 pm

Congrats. on the flea-market lot Robert! Great to have your son Mark bird-dogging for you! Thumbs Up

Some observations while looking at the photos:

The blue "plane parts" toolbox has a Sanwa 2ch. AM 72mHz radio receiver in it; likely belonging to the Cox R/C E-Z Bee kit.

One of the two muffled/5cc tanked Cox .049 reedies is probably the "QRC" engine that came with the E-Z Bee kit. The other engine is probably a standard Babe Bee with a muffler added. Cox "did" produce a PT19 Flight-Trainer with the QZ (Quiet-Zone) engine.. but it's not the PT19 version that you have.

Here's what the "QZ" version looks like..

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The "tanked-engine" type firewall/gear block looked like this...

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"Your" edition PT19's firewall/gear-block should look something like this..

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A Cox .049  "product-engine" (modern/horse-shoe type backplate) fit's "up and into" the top of this firewall.

An indication on your PT19 fuse.. is the space for filling the product-engines' "external" fuel-tank via integrated "nipples" (just forward of the front windscreen) which are formed into the fuse.A small "translucent white" tank-bowl was issued with your model. The correct "propeller" is a Cox black [LEFT HAND] 6" dia. x 2in. pitch
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Post  rsv1cox on Tue May 28, 2019 6:17 am

Thanks roddie.

So this is probably the engine from the PT19.  Not anodized, looks like someone painted it red.

So, I get this call from Mark while he is shopping a local flea market Plane_10

Only one in the boxes that is a "horse-shoe" engine.

Other parts for the EZ Bee and PT are intermingled.  Someday I will get them all sorted out and back to their proper places.

Anyone know what those little clips positioned to the upper right of the engine go to?
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Post  Marleysky on Tue May 28, 2019 8:39 am

Bob , those clips are  “Clevis “  or the end of the control arms for the Lazy Bee.

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Looks like you have a couple of the #8 “tail-skids” too.

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If you don’t have instructions for the lazy bee , i can send you pictures or a copy of mine.( oh. nevermind, I see in your first picture you have the instructions! ).


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Post  rsv1cox on Tue May 28, 2019 10:21 am

Rene, you have become the answer-man here.

I haven't gotten to that box yet, stretching things out, enjoying the experience.

Thanks - Bob
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Post  Oldenginerod on Tue May 28, 2019 6:27 pm

rsv1cox wrote:

Only one in the boxes that is a "horse-shoe" engine.

Bob. Looks like there's another (unpainted) in the shoe-shine box, if I'm lookin' right.
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Post  ticomareado on Wed May 29, 2019 5:51 pm

That's almost as good as finding it on the side of the street on garbage collection day.
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Post  roddie on Wed May 29, 2019 6:35 pm

rsv1cox wrote:Thanks roddie.

So this is probably the engine from the PT19.  Not anodized, looks like someone painted it red.

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Hi Robert! That "could be" the engine.. but there's another engine with a horseshoe backplate in that lot.. (in the center.. as Rodney noticed..)

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The engine with the red-painted cylinder has a R/H propeller. If you check the outboard-wing of your PT19 model.. you'll likely notice the absence of wingtip-weight. Your PT19 Flight-Trainer model was designed to use a Cox black #864 L/H 6 x 2 two-blade propeller. The left-hand prop-rotation design has a definite purpose. Under power; it torque-rolls the model "starboard" (to the right) which has a positive effect on line-tension.. and needs NO outboard tip weight.

If you or your son Mark plan to fly the Cox PT19 Flight Trainer.. keep the above in mind. If you use a R/H propeller.. you should provide (ADD) outboard wingtip-weight. Doing so will help to keep the model tracking "outward-circle". NOTE that there is very slight rudder-offset.. and ZERO thrust-offset.
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Post  rsv1cox on Thu May 30, 2019 12:01 pm

ticomareado wrote:That's almost as good as finding it on the side of the street on garbage collection day.

Almost. Smile Smile




Thanks for the PT-19 education roddie. There should be one of those 864 props in there.

The only PT-19 that I have ever flown put me right on the ground, later transferred to Ron Cribbs for better times.

Bob
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