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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:11 pm

For those of you following the continuing saga of Bob’s cantankerous engine I now have the the rest of the story. I received the engine in the mail yesterday which was good timing as I had the day off work today and am leaving Monday.

When I pulled it out of the box I immediately did a suck blow test on it and it failed miserably. I took it to the shop and pulled the backplate off and inspected the reed. It was stuck in the retainer and had to be pushed out. Once removed I noticed one corner of the reed was frayed. Long story short brand new reed and retainer and it’s a runner again. I removed the starter spring cam and used a TD nose cone, but it’s the same engine.

In Bob’s defense he told me he suspected the problem was in the reed area so it was the first place I looked

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Post  roddie on Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:36 pm

NICE! It runs like a top now.. Smile

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Glad that you figured-out the problem Ron. Thumbs Up Small Cox Logo

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Post  NEW222 on Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:07 pm

Awesome. Good job! Nice to see a runner.
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Post  NEW222 on Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:08 pm

And it sounds very good too!
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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:30 pm

Thanks Chancey, it runs ok. It might hit the parts bin though, or if somebody new jumps on and doesn’t have an engine I will send it to them.
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Post  rex f. on Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:42 am

I did mention before to check whether the reed was being held by the retainer
Fairly common with the dieldrin retainer
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Post  rex f. on Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:16 am

Correction should have said delrin retainer not dieldrin a pest control chemical banned in aust
May be of further use the backplate gasket when using non tanked style MUST have the gasket
Installed berween the backplate & the reed retainer as the delrin retainer is self sealing against
The crankcase thereby providing the extra clearance preventing reed jammiig
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Post  getback on Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:01 am

Well that was To easy , Bob is losing his touch Doh! Way to go Ron!!! Smoking
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Post  roddie on Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:57 am

@rex f. wrote: The backplate gasket when using non tanked style MUST have the gasket
Installed berween the backplate & the reed retainer as the delrin retainer is self sealing against
The crankcase thereby providing the extra clearance preventing reed jammiig
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Hi Rex, This illustration and photo below would suggest the opposite..

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I've been installing my case-gaskets directly against the crankcase and don't seem to have any issues. If the "retainer-flange" is directly against the crankcase.. there's a possibility of the crank-pin contacting (binding-against) the front of the retainer.. especially if the rear of the case has been decked.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:53 am

@getback wrote:Well that was To easy , Bob is losing his touch Doh! Way to go Ron!!! Smoking

Not so, He pointed me in the direction I needed to go in. That reed fraying wasn’t easy to see, I only noticed it when I rubbed it between my fingers. I took it out in the daylight and saw the edge of one corner coming apart. Anyone could have missed it, including myself.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:56 am

The great gasket debacle.... truth be told I didn’t install one in this case. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. If it runs fine without I don’t bother.

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Post  rsv1cox on Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:58 am

Congrats Ron. Funny, I tried various reeds with the same result. I never liked that plastic set-up. In truth, I just got sick of fooling with it.

My touch isn't the only thing I have lost Eric, my mind preceded it by years. Smile

Thanks to everyone for your help on this. I'm finally putting it to rest.

RIP

Bob
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Post  getback on Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:20 am

Anyone who can rebuild a MG complete is not losing much in my opinion , Just messing with you friend ! I find it kinda funny you would put that much time into one engine when you have so many . Small Cox Logo
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