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Post  microflitedude Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:38 pm

Getting ready to throw a couple PeeWee .020's in the crockpot with green antifreeze overnight on low heat. Anything I need to know? I removed the gaskets and pickup tube.

Also, should I remove the cylinder by the exhaust with the tool or use pliers with leather/tape? If pliers, where on the cylinder?

Thanks in advance, Matt
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Post  microflitedude Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:42 pm

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Post  microflitedude Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:29 pm

Well, got the cylinders off and they are now cooking.
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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:56 pm

Matt,

Didn't see this earlier, I always use the tools to remove the cylinders when possible. I only resort to other measures when needed. 9.999999 times out of 10 the tools work just fine. As far as the antifreeze is concerned let simmer on low and check in the morning.
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Post  Jaspur_x Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:09 pm

Craftsman ignition pliers, part#94513 roughly 5.5" long,nearly pocket sized channel lock pliers work on 020 and 010 nicely with wrapped jaws,not sure you actually could distort a cylinder with these,but you could monkey up the fins if not wraped Shocked

I like using these because its not overkill sized hand tools lol!

But they aren`t the cheap way to go if this is your only use for them,I have found them to be nearly as handy as my leatherman and swiss pocket knife.........MacGuyver methods=results Rolling Eyes
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Post  Admin Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:38 pm

Jaspur_x wrote:Craftsman ignition pliers, part#94513 roughly 5.5" long,nearly pocket sized channel lock pliers work on 020 and 010 nicely with wrapped jaws,not sure you actually could distort a cylinder with these,but you could monkey up the fins if not wraped Shocked

I like using these because its not overkill sized hand tools lol!

But they aren`t the cheap way to go if this is your only use for them,I have found them to be nearly as handy as my leatherman and swiss pocket knife.........MacGuyver methods=results Rolling Eyes

I know a few people who have distorted cylinders by using pliers and even between 2 blocks of wood! I almost did myself Rolling Eyes .

PS: MacGyver (Richard Dean Anderson) grew up in my area and also went to the same high school that I went to.

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Post  Surfer_kris Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:17 am

Don't cook the cylinder or piston, you only remove the important castor protection. If there is too much varnish on the cylinder (very rare in my experience) just remove a little with soft steel wool.
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Post  Jaspur_x Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:30 am

microflitedude wrote:Getting ready to throw a couple PeeWee .020's in the crockpot with green antifreeze overnight on low heat. Anything I need to know? I removed the gaskets and pickup tube.

Also, should I remove the cylinder by the exhaust with the tool or use pliers with leather/tape? If pliers, where on the cylinder?

Thanks in advance, Matt
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Post  crankbndr Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:33 am

How did your cooking go?
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Post  microflitedude Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:51 am

Thanks guys.

It got really late, so instead of risking the tool on the cylinder, (ruined a number of .049s this way) I used some channel locks with a few folds of rag. it came off easily.

Unfortunately I did put the cylinder and piston in. But, when I went to check it this morning, it was all cold and the dirt and grime was there. confused Plugged it in to a different outlet, removed the piston/cylinder, and will check on it this afternoon. Hope I didn't mess up my little fondue pot. Smile

I have done this before with good results. Melts everything foreign away.
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Post  Surfer_kris Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:09 am

I don't understand why you would boil the internal parts of an engine, that's just asking for truble. A muffler is one thing but a bit of patina on the engine doesn't hurt....

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Post  Cribbs74 Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:55 am

Patina?

Goodnight! It's anodized itself! lol!

Just kidding, that's a well used happy TD.
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Post  Cribbs74 Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:09 am

microflitedude wrote:Thanks guys.

It got really late, so instead of risking the tool on the cylinder, (ruined a number of .049s this way) I used some channel locks with a few folds of rag. it came off easily.

Unfortunately I did put the cylinder and piston in. But, when I went to check it this morning, it was all cold and the dirt and grime was there. confused Plugged it in to a different outlet, removed the piston/cylinder, and will check on it this afternoon. Hope I didn't mess up my little fondue pot. Smile

I have done this before with good results. Melts everything foreign away.

Matt,

What exactly are you trying to do? If rust removal there is a product at your local auto parts store that dissolves rust and is non caustic, works on all metals. The name of the product eludes me but it is in a grey container. It's called 2000 something. I will find out when I get home. It's a little pricey but it works good. I toss old bolts and rusty motorcycle parts into it and the next day they look brand new.
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Post  microflitedude Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:56 pm

The parts had some thick congealed castor and green muck. This method works great, as long as you are careful; melts everything right off. A lot of guys over on RCGroups do it all the time. No rust.

I do not really boil them, per say, they sit overnight on low heat. The reason I do it is because it is relatively easy, no scrubbing, and cheap. (until the pot decides to quit LOL) Seized engines, too, free up.

But not to worry, my pot is now broken, and will not heat at all. Very Happy They got some fuel and alcohol instead.

You might be on to something... Very cheap anodizing! Very Happy Wonder what would happen if one left a glow head simmering for 3 days....
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Post  MFD2 Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:41 pm

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Post  engine049 Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:54 am

http://coxengineforum.forumakers.com/t1797-inspecting-crankcases-what-are-the-thresholds

It goes into great Detail of best cleaning methods.

The good stuff "Ideally you want an ultrasonic parts bath with TC (thermal control) Don't even thing about using a crock pot that's only for yummy production!
P.S spend more than $50 on a ultrasonic bath BTW the others you will buy are not real ultrasonic baths they are BS and they will break and are just an electro motor with a vibrator Not real ultrasonic THIS one really is real. P.SS I have real experience with buying some BS http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html is exactly what I have its AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!

you might be tempted to buy something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultrasonic-Ultravibra-Wave-EyeGlasses-Jewelry-Coins-Watch-Washing-Cleaner-Washer-/160760423948?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256e11660c DONT DO IT ITS JUNK
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Post  engine049 Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:55 am

Also this should have gone in cox discussion.
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Post  PV Pilot Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:09 am


Or build something like this with more volume. I think I have about 10 bucks into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBw1LeJUhAg
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Post  GermanBeez Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 pm

i just love to sit down, take the engine completely apart and give every part a good rubdown
with my tooth brush and some fuel ^^
but if you really wanna cook em i guess its somewhat more thorough.
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