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Post  davidll1984 on Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:00 pm

i found a strange part it a reed tank back plate it has e insert in ventury intake port just behind screen mesh wat look to a jet improovment found back in days ? neadle has notch on top not just ligne it look same hole size it like in midle of jet hole is devised in half ?wil try get pictur of


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Post  Levent Suberk on Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:20 pm

Perhaps needle was broken and it is tip of needle.
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Post  davidll1984 on Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:58 pm

no its not debrie part broken nornal bee tank part is 1 neadle his spring gas tube wit spring inside. ventury screen mesh seel for intake now on mine ad of 1 part between intake screen mesh like wacher wit tube like atatch to it make 360' jet around intake ventury jet is divised by wacher and tube dont toutch intake look inside its look like just holow ling jet cant see jet hole from reed valve hole just holow groove like befor screen just after intake ventury 360' jet
it was on cars engines cylinder in has spi no boost port twin bypas large intake hole larger to normal it look like black widow spec on cars engine so back plate have two filer tube its wy y never pay atention to it but it has bw spec ? mebe stigner car or pinto modified
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Post  davidll1984 on Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:05 pm

it hard to translate but needle has it own seat jet chape used to look like triangle chape litle line mine is divised by very litle washer wit litle tube chape in midle it let place too fuel go eround litle tube in front of ventury intake ventury reed tank part is fix in the back plate but can bee remooved if screen not in place exit toward engine side after part just look as normal 1 wit enlaged hole jet is litle biger than usual not same chape like inverted triangle on that 1 ?very strange
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Post  davidll1984 on Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:39 pm

y found a golden bee wit larger tank ventury hole has the same part as my cars it as spec of black widow. back plate dont have filer tube has de same litle extra part ? its 100% sur its improovement watch for it if u have 1 golden black widow bee is the same back plate now mine is frome cars like pinto did cox put black widow spec in cars or cars spec in golden bee first as golden bee is older tink and car can bee ferly old too ?some one plz info need too clear that up to no if y am right y think cars engines was first wit this spec
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Post  davidll1984 on Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:05 am

look at the new back plate bernie just send spec look ventury jet is very diferent it look like desing y try to explain mine is extra part inserted in casting back plate way bether desing new jet look conik chape mine is washer wit very litle tube like chape in midle hole divised jet port in half 1 side air enter jet in top back blate ventury hole rest air run true midle tube like in the very thin smal washer spacer how ever u want to call it is extra part y never find in over hull kit part compare too futaba servo mounting sleeve coper litle part go in ruber damper 4 coper mounting bushing look for it is best jet i ever see
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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:13 pm

Hey David,

I am guessing here, but I assume you are French Canadian.

Feel free to post in French or English. We have members that can help translate if needed.
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Post  davidll1984 on Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:34 pm

no time for gramair lesson too mutch work need info y can read english not good writing french or english writing not bieng importent to me y make butifull drawing do Laughing wil try my best sory my bad word dont translate if not corect
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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:40 pm

I understand, No problem David, not taking a poke at you or anything. Just want to make sure you get the information you need.

If you could take a picture it would help to understand what you are talking about. There are many home made venturi designs as well as professionally made engines that are not standard Cox maybe you have one of those.

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This is what your post title translates to in English: Wink

Yes, of course. I speak badly no matter the language, I make mistakes
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Post  Jason_WI on Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:40 am

Possibly be any of these? These are the unique backplates/engines in my collection.

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Post  fredvon4 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:34 am

I am betting this

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Post  NEW222 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:22 am

Good thinking Fred. I would have to definately think you got it. I had actually forgotten about those throttle controls.
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Post  davidll1984 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:30 am

my back plate is gold look wit two fuel niple
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Post  davidll1984 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:31 am

no its not a throttle now most after market part on ebay for cox even more its not after market tink its cox upgrade true time lost methode


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Post  davidll1984 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:37 am

it extra part y never see befor very smal its jet improvment sur not look like restrictive part same size ventury hole
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Post  davidll1984 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:53 am

try get pic is too blur cant see inside is just look normal 1 but y found a pictur last night in post of a golden bee show two gold bee wit litle diference in back plate fuel tank ventury is larger size ventury y see my litle pices in back plate on right of his picturs y am suprise no 1 pay atention to its litle extra part som engines wil have its sur som 1 have same without no its exsist mebee 1 part bernie dont no were its from were it go y no
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Post  fredvon4 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:13 am

David brother...I sincerely hope this post does not run you off...You have cool stuff and some good information...pleas stay a active member of CEF

I have desperately tried for 100+ posts to decipher your writing...alas I usually shrug and move on

my google has a very good translation app...if you can, post in your native French Canadian...except for some very technical terms, these translators today are really very good...and free
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:30 am

David,

It sounds from your description that someone has placed a washer to restrict flow into the venturi. I haven’t seen that as a standard fitment piece in any Cox engine.

The Texaco backplate is plastic. It is no different than the steel one apart from the venturi hole is smaller in diameter. No washer.
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Post  davidll1984 on Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:05 pm

back plate get 16 17 k wit its own tank cylinder is two port no boost port wit spi second cylinder two boost port exaust as fin 22 to 23 k if engine is pancher mooved on side lateral cylinder to left and forget to say fuel tubing is litle short wit biger size y read post wit same tubing method on right litle up as cars run fuel must go to rear and its wy fuel tube is place like so on side tank y am sur cars is first wit mod explaned now wil try wit modified tuned pipe see if can get mutch rpm wil compare wit normal stock part same cylinder make sur is not just cylinder spec use windsor 6x3 prop 0630 for test as tach read car is hard cant doo it now no tool for it cars sound meen very hi rpm
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:34 pm

davidll1984 wrote:no time for gramair lesson too mutch work need info y can read english not good  writing french or english writing not bieng importent to me y make butifull drawing do Laughing wil try my best sory my bad word dont translate if not corect

i'd love to help, but i can't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrjmeGKoR1E

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Post  Levent Suberk on Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:09 am

Write in your native language, as Ron and Fred suggested.

Ecrivez dans votre langue maternelle.
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Post  Oldenginerod on Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:59 am

davidll1984 wrote:try get pic is too blur cant see inside is just look normal 1 but y found a pictur last night in post of a golden bee show two gold bee wit litle diference in back plate fuel tank ventury is larger size ventury y see my litle pices in back plate on right of his picturs y am suprise no 1 pay atention to its litle extra part som engines wil have its sur som 1 have same without no its exsist mebee 1 part bernie dont no were its from were it go y no  

I think you might be referring to a post that Roddie made showing the two different size venturis that he discovered in two Golden Bees. Of course, after all these years people may have simply swapped different backplates around.
The Golden Bee backplates don't have fuel nipples, like you said of your own backplate.
"my back plate is gold look wit two fuel niple"
This type of backplate is just standard Babe Bee, or any other tanked engine that doesn't use a stunt tank. The cars that use an integral tank sometimes have the larger 8cc tanl with no stunt nipples. Of course, they use a normal backplate with two fill nipples.

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Post  davidll1984 on Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:22 am

on 12 tanked bee y have timble drome small tank with swan neck to 1990 era engine stunt texaco black widow and other 8cc tank have only 1 like that y use coper reed not milar or eny plastique 1 backplate is found in cars it has fan on fly weel like vega pinto drag race tether jerobee is same as other just normal 8cc wit smal ventury sise my is like black widow black tank use plastique reed retainer spec same size ventury not smal ventury like red tank both 8cc use plastique nylon reed not my is coper star reed and get 23 k out of it ?think use on 8cc black widow wil get bether result ?
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Post  davidll1984 on Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:40 am

tres petite piece trouver a linterieur du troue d'admition intake ventury de la back plate aloy not plastic cet petite piece comporte un tube dans le centre du washer avec des bon yeux ont peux voir cest bien une petite forme de tube pa fait en forme de cone vraiment un tube aux centre du wascher super mince petite piece
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