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Post  ticomareado Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:11 pm

https://www.ebay.com/i/233568892253?_trksid=p11010.c100776.m4872&_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170316120926%26meid%3D0cf2ab64bcf347c781bea122f4e17e4d%26pid%3D100776%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D21%26mehot%3Dnone%26b%3D1%26sd%3D392768035238%26itm%3D233568892253%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D11010&ul_noapp=true

It has sort of a prison workshop look to it.
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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:40 pm

ticomareado wrote:Ebay: Vintage Cox .049 Car Airplane Engine w/Custom Intake & Exhaust

It has sort of a prison workshop look to it.
$9.99 Buy Now + $3.99 Shipping to U.S. from Whittier, California
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Yup, an engine that only a Cox engine lover would love. Laughing Damn! lol! Beer Cheers drunken sunny
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Post  happydad Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:50 pm

GallopingGhostler wrote:
ticomareado wrote:Ebay: Vintage Cox .049 Car Airplane Engine w/Custom Intake & Exhaust

It has sort of a prison workshop look to it.
$9.99 Buy Now + $3.99 Shipping to U.S. from Whittier, California
A real strange looking Cox .049 Ebay buy now listing S-l16095

Yup, an engine that only a Cox engine lover would love. Laughing Damn! lol! Beer Cheers drunken sunny
Thanks for the tip. The muffler itself should be worth the price.  Happydad. Very Happy
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Post  Dave P. Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:05 pm

I saw that last night, spent at least ten minutes trying to figure out all the plumbing.  I'm still not sure how it all works.  It's almost worth fourteen bucks just to see what the heck it is.  Almost.
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Post  happydad Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:13 pm

Dave P. wrote:I saw that last night, spent at least ten minutes trying to figure out all the plumbing.  I'm still not sure how it all works.  It's almost worth fourteen bucks just to see what the heck it is.  Almost.
 That’s what I thought and like I said above, the muffler is worth the price.
   I will post pics when I get the engine. I was mostly interested in the fuel intake.
   Happydad RC Plane Very Happy
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Post  Jason_WI Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:27 pm

Rube Goldberg would be proud.

That looks like a QZ muffler with the extended spring clip.
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Post  ticomareado Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:23 am

Maybe Charlie Manson made it.
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Post  sosam117 Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:52 am

How and where do you mount the engine to test run it? I don't see any beam mounting? The back plate mounting is impossible.
I think this engine has never been run. Just like out in California, it's a rat engine like those rat cars that look like rusted hulks with anything strapped to it to look good.

It's a "Rat Engine" for a Rat tether car.
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Post  getback Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:11 am

At least he tells the truth in the description , i don't see a fuel tank ? looks like muffler and Ram air LOL Please post about it Happyday , And good to hear from you Hope things are well OK Very Happy
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Post  NEW222 Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:53 am

Definately 'Rat' engine of some kind. By looking at it, it would almost appear that whoever did this had done so with intent of running it inside something. Thinking either car or boat here, maybe clamped in place by the nose of the crankcase?
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Post  Levent Suberk Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:42 am

He cut the main fuel tank and used the reed part. He cut and filed the plastic fuel tank backplate, and used for pressure feed. Vinyl fuel hose shows. I think that engine has been clamped in a vice by the front part of cut fuel tank, because clamping sign shows on thin front part of fuel tank.


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Post  pkrankow Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:44 am

Is there a wick in the ram air intake to run on a sorta extended prime?

I recall my dad moving an old car by pouring gas on a rag, throwing it over the carburator, and starting it. It ran poorly for several minutes but moved under its own power.

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Post  Mark Diedrichs Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:27 pm

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Post  ticomareado Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:32 pm

Now I know what it is-- a personal miniature pocket liquor still.
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Post  dckrsn Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:55 pm

Nitro-Punk.
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Post  happydad Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:30 pm

I received this strange concoction of a cox .049 engine.

Pic #1 received engine disassembled
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Pic #2 as disassembled
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#3 cylinder, hi compression glow head

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edited to add photos. (my only complaint about iPad). 4-30-2020 7:44p.m. PST


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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:04 pm

I would think if you simplify the muffler apparatus and sand that solder smooth it wouldn’t look all that bad. Add a proper backplate and you may have a neat little engine. VHT sells exhaust manifold paint, can be found at local auto store.
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Post  happydad Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:11 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:I would think if you simplify the muffler apparatus and sand that solder smooth it wouldn’t look all that bad. Add a proper backplate and you may have a neat little engine. VHT sells exhaust manifold paint, can be found at local auto store.

I got what I wanted out of the deal:
#3 cylinder with piston, good compression
high compression glow head
Crankshaft
Muffler assembly, complete, (that top ring is hard to find sometimes)

If anyone wants the other parts, except for needle, reed, etc., let me know.
Parts like the “tuned pipe” looking thing, or the thing that sort of looks like the fuel input.
(Actual fuel input goes to the small tubing that goes into the needle-reed assembly).

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Post  ticomareado Fri May 01, 2020 8:44 am

You probably can build good runner by installing a spray bar/NV assembly in the butchered up Baby Bee fuel bowl/venturi and slapping a CG postage stamp mount on it.  Reeds work better against an unblemished aluminum seal surface than on plastic. (think a Cox 290 Spook engine)   In any case, thanks for satisfying our morbid curiosity.
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