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Post  rsv1cox Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:40 am

Every now and then I just enter "Control line airplanes" and see what shakes out, usually with a modifier like "busted, damaged, or broken."  Found and bought some interesting stuff that way.  

But this caught my eye.

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Offered is a one-of-a-kind Douglass C-47 airplane model built from a Guillow's kit #804. The model is all solid surfaced with no tissue - individual balsa pieces were cut and fit.  The balsa surface is covered with a thin layer of Bondo Glass.  Approx. 37.5 inch wingspan, 25 inch length. The wing span was increased about an inch to allow for larger propellers.  Approx. 1.8 lbs.  Control line set-up.   Cloth elevator hinges not used - a custom hinge is incorporated.  The model has dual OK Cub .074 engines.  Each engine has its own approx. 3/4 oz fuel tank.  The engines have excellent compression and were bench-tested. The model has not been fueled.  Has a removable wing-tip control line guide.

$399.00 with $64.00 shipping.
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Post  Marleysky Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:27 am

She’s a beauty! She’s expensive! Keep the picture to look at. A pictures worth $700!
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:20 pm

@Marleysky wrote:She’s a beauty!  She’s expensive!   Keep the picture to look at. A pictures worth $700!

Look at, right. At almost 2 pounds I doubt that it would ever leave the ground. But, I like the C/L leads out through the passenger windows and the removable guide. As a stick built Guillows I'm amazed that he could paint that stuff on then sand it to that level without crushing the superstructure. That's no MG under there. Smile
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Post  Cribbs74 Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:33 pm

I don’t see it. It really could use some detailing.

2x.074 is just shy of .15 and a very anemic .15 at that. Maybe with a long enough rollout it might ROG. 2lbs is near the limit for .35 sized ships. There was probably a reason it was never fueled.
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:52 pm

@Cribbs74 wrote:I don’t see it. It really could use some detailing.

2x.074 is just shy of .15 and a very anemic .15 at that. Maybe with a long enough rollout it might ROG. 2lbs is near the limit for .35 sized ships. There was probably a reason it was never fueled.

Yes, after going to all that trouble I would have painted it like this rather than just over-all bronze.

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I flew in one just like this back in the mid-50's. Baltimore to Boston. Tight but comfy. Stewardesses, err flight attendants were really friendly to young Sailors travelling in uniform.
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Post  Cribbs74 Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:23 pm

Ahhh the good old days. Stewardess’s are still friendly to those in uniform. After 911 I no longer flew in uniform. I wanted to not be singled out and be able to provide help when needed. I am sure my haircut and clean dress gave me away though. Actually it was mandatory that we fly in uniform until 2001. After that it was ordered we do not unless on deployment.
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Post  Oldenginerod Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:30 pm

@rsv1cox wrote:The engines have excellent compression and were bench-tested. The model has not been fueled.

Huh...

So what, they sat the engines on the bench and it didn't break??
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Post  NEW222 Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:49 pm

Myself, I think it looks rather good and different with that paint scheme. Although a bit of accenting or details as in Bobs picture woule really make it look good. But I was taken back a bit when I read that it was a Guillows kit. Looking at the window and door detail, I wonder if the kit had a sheet of plastic molded parts for these areas? Either way, a neat specimen. Yes, I had to google how to spell specimen....
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Post  rsv1cox Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:24 pm

@NEW222 wrote:Myself, I think it looks rather good and different with that paint scheme. Although a bit of accenting or details as in Bobs picture woule really make it look good. But I was taken back a bit when I read that it was a Guillows kit. Looking at the window and door detail, I wonder if the kit had a sheet of plastic molded parts for these areas? Either way, a neat specimen. Yes, I had to google how to spell specimen....

Does look a little like it was cast in bronze. Talk about a heavy weight.

I'm grappling with that Bondo-glass thing. Builder must have been a body-man superman to achieve that level of finish on a balsa sheeted airplane.

Trying to figure this out Rod:

So what, they sat the engines on the bench and it didn't break??

Remember, I'm working an 83 year old brain here. Smile Sad
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Post  NEW222 Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:47 pm

@rsv1cox wrote:I'm grappling with that Bondo-glass thing.  Builder must have been a body-man superman to achieve that level of finish on a balsa sheeted airplane.

Well, I will bow out on that comment..... Very Happy As that is my trade, I will admit that when I started with control line, I too had a few blunders with my 1/2a sheet models. I will admit however that they looked great with no woodgrain showing. Highbuild primer was a guarantee with no shortage of color and clearcoat...... Back then I did not really grasp the weight thing.
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Post  NEW222 Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:50 pm

@rsv1cox wrote:Trying to figure this out Rod:

So what, they sat the engines on the bench and it didn't break??

Remember, I'm working an 83 year old brain here.  Smile Sad

Well, if I may intervene. I think he is referring to the comment in the ad posted above.

'The engines have excellent compression and were bench-tested. The model has not been fueled.'

If the engines have excellent compression and were bench tested, how has the model NOT been fueled. At least this is the way I see it and believe this is what Rod was referring to.
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Post  rsv1cox Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:10 pm

@NEW222 wrote:
@rsv1cox wrote:Trying to figure this out Rod:

So what, they sat the engines on the bench and it didn't break??

Remember, I'm working an 83 year old brain here.  Smile Sad

Well, if I may intervene. I think he is referring to the comment in the ad posted above.

'The engines have excellent compression and were bench-tested. The model has not been fueled.'

If the engines have excellent compression and were bench tested, how has the model NOT been fueled. At least this is the way I see it and believe this is what Rod was referring to.

What I got from that was that the seller bench tested them out of the airplane then installed them.  No need to fuel it up.

And, Bondo as you know is quite easy to sand and finish, add fiberglass and it's a whole new ball game. If he just layered it with pure Bondo, I can see it, but you have to be a master to layer a very thin coat on so that details shows, especially around the door.
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Post  fredvon4 Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:11 am

I guess the BENCH did not break....that is how I read the snarky comment
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:39 am

@fredvon4 wrote:I guess the BENCH did not break....that is how I read the snarky comment

You might be on to something Fred, Rod does work on engines and I would think that he has pulled a few and put them on a workbench perhaps collapsing one or two. But he works on those itty-bitty Brit and Aus four cylinder jobs that barely weigh a pound and a half. Smile

Ask me how I know.

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