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Post  Surfer_kris on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:06 pm

Is there any good collection of Cox order numbers and what there were made for?

One reason I'm asking is that I found a glow-head for the 09 I didn't know existed or even remembered that I had...
It is marked with 21020 and it seems to be made for turbo plugs (sweet!) but when did they ever make those?

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Post  altidsulten on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:14 pm

Hi,
I am trying to make a list of Cox part numbers, but it is very difficult as they changed their system more than once.
So far i have around 900 numbers, but i am only scratching the surface!

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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  nitroairplane on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:16 pm

Surfer_kris wrote:Is there any good collection of Cox order numbers and what there were made for?

One reason I'm asking is that I found a glow-head for the 09 I didn't know existed or even remembered that I had...
It is marked with 21020 and it seems to be made for turbo plugs (sweet!) but when did they ever make those?


Wow I did not know that either!
Do you have a picture?
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Surfer_kris on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:40 pm

Here are two pictures with a an OS turbo plug mounted in it.





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Post  nitroairplane on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:50 pm

Wow very cool!
I have a "pee wee .010"
Prop screw and washer nib!
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  John Goddard on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:01 pm

Is that a resealable bag?
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Post  nitroairplane on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:06 pm

John Goddard wrote:Is that a resealable bag?
Looks like it, Busta!
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Surfer_kris on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:08 pm

Busta, or Buster?, or did you spend to much time in the Bastu?

Yes, like so many of the cox items at the time, it came in a zip bag. The number for the regular TD 09 head is 2102, not 21020 like the one shown above.
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Post  nitroairplane on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:13 pm

Surfer_kris wrote:Busta, or Buster?, or did you spend to much time in the Bastu?

Yes, like so many of the cox items at the time, it came in a zip bag. The number for the regular TD 09 head is 2102, not 21020 like the one shown above.

Sorry Busta is John (his youtube name).
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Jason_WI on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:37 pm

That head is off of a Queen Bee .074 or a TD RC .09. They did not use turbo plugs. Turbo plugs seal at the bottom of the plug and the pic above does not show that.

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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Surfer_kris on Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:25 am

Okey, what would it take to convince you that it is a Turbo plug head?
I know of coarse about the QB engine, I have four of them myself. I have also made my own heads that take turbo plugs, for other engines, so I am well aware of how they work compared to a regular plug. Apart from the sealing surface, the threads are also different and you would not be able to fit a turbo plug in a head with a regular plug thread...

Here is another image, QB head and plug on the left;

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Odd Glow Pllug?

Post  Big Al on Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:44 pm

Kris’s glow plug photo prompted me to check which plug is in my 09 R/C. It turns out that I can now add it to my list of ‘Stuff I didn’t know’. It has an idle bar and a flat coil element. Strange (at least to me).
To the best of my knowledge it is original. I got the engine from an acquaintance that had only flown it a time or two.
Has anyone else seen a plug like this?
Al



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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Surfer_kris on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:22 pm

I have seen stock QB heads with and without idle bar but never with the flat glowbee wire style...
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Jason_WI on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:25 pm

Well the turbo plug head for an 09 is something I haven't seen before. The TD 09 head part number is 2102. Looks like an extra zero was added to the part number for this head.
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  altidsulten on Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:40 pm

Between 1977 and 1978 Cox changed their numbering system. Several products changed from 4 digits to 5 digits. That could be the reason for the odd number?
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  Mike1484 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:43 pm

That flat element is a Glo Bee plug.

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Cox Parts List in an Excel File

Post  zeissman on Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:45 am

altidsulten wrote:Hi,
I am trying to make a list of Cox part numbers, but it is very difficult as they changed their system more than once.
So far i have around 900 numbers, but i am only scratching the surface!

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Hello,

I too have been trying to put together a list of Cox part numbers. However, I don't have many entries yet.

In an attempt to make this list more useful, I am putting it together in spreadsheet form. I am using Microsoft Office Excel 2003.

If there is a way to do so, I will attach this file. I ask anyone who is interested to fill in as many part numbers as they wish. Then, please post the amended file back to this thread.
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HOW DO I ATTACH AN EXCEL FILE?

Post  zeissman on Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:09 am

zeissman wrote:If there is a way to do so, I will attach this file.  I ask anyone who is interested to fill in as many part numbers as they wish.  Then, please post the amended file back to this thread.

Is there a way to attach a Microsoft Office Excel 2003 file to a post. If not, then is there any other way to make an Excel file available to others so that they may download it?

I noticed on my profile that there is a heading entitled "Attachments." However, I have no idea how to upload any such attachments.







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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  roddie on Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:30 pm

An administrator/moderator would need to create a page or "sticky" I think. I believe it would be a worthwhile resource.. and would be a work-in-progress.. because of all the obscure stuff that Cox did over the years. I'd personally love to have access to such a document.

Submissions would need to be sent to a private email account, where they could be reviewed/verified and formatted into documents that could be added to the forum's already-existing "INFO" section.

That would really make this forum the ultimate resource on Cox engines and all the different configurations that Cox offered over the years.. as well as some of the more obscure "parts" that were directly related to engine-performance.

Granted; It would be a lot of work.. but we do have an established network of very knowledgeable Cox-engine enthusiasts already in place that could offer valuable photos/images, vintage articles.. etc.

Martin Hepperle's site has been an awesome resource.. but CEF could take it a step further. Engines would be the primary focus.. and Cox engine-powered models could be an additional database that would be very helpful to our overall community.
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  GWILLIEFOX on Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:07 am

altidsulten wrote:Hi,
I am trying to make a list of Cox part numbers, but it is very difficult as they changed their system more than once.
So far i have around 900 numbers, but i am only scratching the surface!

Hilsen Thomas Pedersen
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Dan Sitter, california_Dan on eBay and author of the Cox handbook avaiable from Tim Dannels ( www.modelenginecollecting.com ) had access to the Cox factory after it was shut down. He probably has access or has the old and new cox numbers.
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  rsv1cox on Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:32 am

Back in January I bought a lot of items from california-dan, he must have been cleaning house for I follow him frequently. Enya engines for as little as $10, Cox engines, propellers, Series 21 McCoys among others along with a NIB V type glow plug, the most expensive item at $20.
I had included an early Enya glow plug but he could not find it and sent an apology.

The Cox engines are not unique but are models that I did not have.

Has MECOA changed their ways? I'm getting stuff within days not weeks.

Bob
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  GallopingGhostler on Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:48 am

zeissman wrote:Is there a way to attach a Microsoft Office Excel 2003 file to a post.  If not, then is there any other way to make an Excel file available to others so that they may download it?

You can with a bitmap print driver. It works like a printer, but allows you to save the printout as a graphic image. One for example is:

https://code-industry.net/imageprinterpro/

I have never used their driver, so YMMV (your mileage may vary. Tired w/ Coffee Read)

Instead, I'm using Ubuntu Linux and LibreOffice, a fork of OpenOffice. It has an export function where I can specify to save printout as bitmapped (.png, .jpg, etc.), which then can be uploaded as an image.

An alternative is to do a screen capture, use photo editing software to remove unimportant stuff like the Windows bars, then post. Smoking

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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  michaely on Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:56 pm

Big Al wrote:Kris’s glow plug photo prompted me to check which plug is in my 09 R/C.  It turns out that I can now add it to my list of ‘Stuff I didn’t know’.  It has an idle bar and a flat coil element.  Strange (at least to me).
To the best of my knowledge it is original. I got the engine from an acquaintance that had only flown it a time or two.
Has anyone else seen a plug like this?
Al





Hi Al,

I picked up a nib TD .09 RC (#211) this summer from a modeler in southern Ontario who was selling off modeling stuff from a retiring hobbyist. The engine, upon dismantling, does not appear to have been run.

The glo plug on my engine is the same in that a short reach glo plug is screwed into the cylinder head .... but no idle bar; flat plug element, body of plug is black with kurls, three kurls on vertical battery bar and a fairly wide white circle between this vertical bar and the black glo plug body when looking from above.
In the accompanying care and operating instruction sheet, a black and white photo shows a black bodied glo plug with a vertical battery bar with several kurls.

Michael in Ontario, Canada
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Re: Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Post  roddie on Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:21 pm

There was recent conversation in my Tee Dee .09 thread, regarding the Tee Dee .09RC engine using the same head with standard 1/4-32 threaded plug application as the Queen Bee .074. Cox apparently sold a replacement plug for the head(s).. Hope this sheds some light.
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Post  Ken Cook on Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:08 pm

That plug looks like a flat coil long Sonic Tronics Glo Devil
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