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Post  sosam117 Sun May 23, 2021 11:27 am

Doing a search on Esty for Enya engines and ran across these "FOUR" engines.
Seller mixed up one fairly good engine with a poor engine to get them to sell?
One is a fairly good Enya .10 engine but was paired with a Cox Tee Dee .09 in poor condition.
The seller thought it was a Cox .10 engine because the Enya was .10 (marked on the Enya engine crankcase).

See the photos below:
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? A-01_e10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? A-02_e10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? A-03_e10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? A-04_e10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? A-05_e10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? A-06_e10

And the 2nd pair of Enya .10 and Cox Tee .09 engines.
The Enya .10 venturi is modified, the radial mount on the Enya crankcase is missing (you can see it on the last two photos)
The Cox Tee Dee .09 was in good condition, but it was gummed up (stuck).


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Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 001_en13
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 002_en12
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 003_en10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 004_en10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 005_en10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 006_en10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 007_en10
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 008_en10

Seller was wanting $120 for the 2 pair of engines (total  for the four -- $240)
Told him the problems with the engines (and the Cox engines were .09 and not .10) and the cost to make them work again.
In the end I got all four for $140 (plus shipping).

Next is to get the replacement parts for the engines and clean them up.
The rare Enya .10 engines will be worth about $120 (more if in good  running condition -- NIB about $200)
Get a box from Enya, a wrench, and engine instructions and add it to my collection like my:

"NEW IN BOX"
Enya .08 engine.
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_083
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_126

What a find?
Oh, the Cox Tee Dee .09 engines will be good to have as well, with the unique mufflers?
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Post  davidll1984 Sun May 23, 2021 11:40 am

Huh... strange it look like one .051 wit wrong parts from a .05 rc this engine look smaler than the .09 Small Cox Logo Babe Bee .049 Huh... affraid No! Sticking a needle this way in a table it doesn't help Could bend break Not Good
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Post  KariFS Sun May 23, 2021 1:39 pm

I too am willing to bet that the TeeDees are not 09. I have never seen a red TeeDee 09 carb body. I guess one could be made by modifying a Medallion part but...Huh...

I have an Enya .10 T.V. and a TeeDee 051, I tried to set them up the same way as in one of your pictures:

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Looks more and more like the TeeDee is an 051.

The other Enya looks like an 06. There’s only 6 cooling fins on that one.
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Post  Admin Sun May 23, 2021 1:44 pm

I agree the TDs look to be .051s (correct for red carb body) or .049s. Looking at the glow head alone, you can tell they are not .09s.

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Post  Ken Cook Sun May 23, 2021 1:50 pm

One easy identification is the drive washer. The Tee Dee and Medallion .09 uses a stepped drivewasher which centers the prop unlike the smaller versions which have none.
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Post  sosam117 Mon May 24, 2021 7:34 am

Well, I'll let you guys know when I receive the engines from the postal courier?
But you maybe correct on the Cox engines being .049/.50 or .51 engines?

The Enya engines are .10 engines (at lest one of them are).
I hope the other Enya is also a .10. Still not too bad of a deal?

Photos are from the seller.
And yes, I'm not too thrilled of the needle valve driven into the wood either.


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Post  roddie Mon May 24, 2021 6:50 pm

Congrats. on purchasing those engines. Thumbs Up I'm guessing that you're more interested in the Enya's.. but the Tee Dee's don't look bad at all. They could be genuine .051's.. but you'll need to take a peak at their pistons (skirts) to see whether there's a concentric ring/groove machined near their bottoms. A ring/groove would distinguish the "top-end" as .051 displacement. The "red" carb-bodies designed for aluminum venturi's were another Tee Dee .051 only.. trademark. Of course; we're talking Cox vintage (prior to Estes) engines. You could replace the J-B weld-repaired carb-body with an aluminum part that been recently available. Inquire EXModel Engines/Matt or Cox International/Bernie for availability.
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Post  dckrsn Mon May 24, 2021 9:46 pm

@sosam117 wrote:Well, I'll let you guys know when I receive the engines from the postal courier?
But you maybe correct on the Cox engines being .049/.50 or .51 engines?
The Enya engines are .10 engines (at lest one of them are).
I hope the other Enya is also a .10. Still not too bad of a deal?
Photos are from the seller.
And yes, I'm not too thrilled of the needle valve driven into the wood either.
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Those engines are beyond useless.
Send them here for proper disposal.  
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Post  sosam117 Tue May 25, 2021 6:43 am

@dckrsn wrote:
@sosam117 wrote:Well, I'll let you guys know when I receive the engines from the postal courier?
But you maybe correct on the Cox engines being .049/.50 or .51 engines?
The Enya engines are .10 engines (at lest one of them are).
I hope the other Enya is also a .10. Still not too bad of a deal?
Photos are from the seller.
And yes, I'm not too thrilled of the needle valve driven into the wood either.
Sam
Those engines are beyond useless.
Send them here for proper disposal.  
Smoking
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Just like all of the members here, I like to make useless engines into running "golden oldies"!
and Bob, someone's else's trash is another man's treasure.
I think I'll keep my trash and turn it into treasured engines, and maybe have them for the engine of the month?
Already have plans to get the aluminum venturi from Matt or Burnie and maybe other parts as well?
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Post  KariFS Tue May 25, 2021 10:27 am

Bob was just pulling your leg Very Happy

I too agree that those TeeDees are far from useless. The one without the JB blob almost looks like it’s never been mounted. The other one you can clean up really nice I am sure.

My concern was just that you might have though and paid 09 prices, but looks like you got a pretty good deal Thumbs Up

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Post  sosam117 Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 pm

@KariFS wrote:Bob was just pulling your leg Very Happy

I too agree that those TeeDees are far from useless. The one without the JB blob almost looks like it’s never been mounted. The other one you can clean up really nice I am sure.

My concern was just that you might have though and paid 09 prices, but looks like you got a pretty good deal Thumbs Up

Definitely EotM material Cool

Yes, I know Bob was kidding. Laughing
We all like to get a good deal here and there. Thumbs Up

As of today (5/25/2021)
I have:
Eighteen of these .049 glow engines:
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 001_en14
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_085
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_084
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 02_eny12

Twenty-four of these .06 glow engines:
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 001_en15
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 01_eny12
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_086

Eleven of the these .06 diesel engines:
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_087
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_088
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? 01_eny13

Nine of these (rare) .08 glow engines:
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_089
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_091
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_090

And Nine of these (rare) .10 glow engines:
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_130
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_131
Picked up these engines from Etsy --- Rare Cox .10 engine? Enya_132

3/4th of all of the engines in the collection is "NEW in the Box".
And were purchased from/in Japan.

And I'll be on the look out for more. affraid

By the way, I'll add those Cox .050/.051 engines to my vast collection of Cox engines too. Damn!
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