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September-2023
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"Beefed up old stock 290 on my Quickie100 RC after plenty of airtime hours..."

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Fox combat special
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Fox combat special
I know this is an unorthodox question...Has anyone been able tae install ae muffler tae a Fox Combat Special? It hasnae design fae ae muffler.
Scotland421- Silver Member
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Re: Fox combat special
There are dozens of Fox Combat Specials. Knowing what you have or posting a picture is a huge help. I practically own all of them with the exception of one or two. Some can be muffled with so so results and only one actually came with muffler provisions which was the Fox .36 MK.5. Essentially muffling these can do harm if not careful. Fox engines have eggshell cases and getting the heat out is important. Certain strap mufflers on the older style Black Head Combat Specials and the Rockets can distort the case if tightened. Depending on muffler design, it's imperative to have a large outlet which doesn't assist the mufflers primary goal of muffling.
Ken Cook- Top Poster
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Re: Fox combat special
It's the MK 3, I'm thinking ae tryin' ae Tatone peacepipe.
Scotland421- Silver Member
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Re: Fox combat special
Oh man, now you’ve gone and done it.
I’ll let Ken get into the particulars, but in short a Peacepipe on a fire breathing Fox combat is a bad idea.
Is a muffler required where you fly?

I’ll let Ken get into the particulars, but in short a Peacepipe on a fire breathing Fox combat is a bad idea.
Is a muffler required where you fly?
Cribbs74- Moderator
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Re: Fox combat special
I've used a Peacepipe on other engines with not so favorable results. This was with mildly timed sport engines. The internal chamber and the outlet is considerably small. The MK III really doesn't want to run slow even with the venturi insert. I would feel that the Peacepipe would essentially hold back too much offering a extended lean run which would really be overheating. One other problem with the MK III is the stock head button design. The head chamber is totally flat with the hole for the plug only. What happens with this is that it tends to really force a lot of pressure directly into the plug area which takes the plug out in short order. Unless your engine has adequate head shims or someone has already changed the head design, if you combine the already known problem with a lean overly hot run, I can see this engine eating plugs on a regular frequency. One can only try and hope for the best.
Ken Cook- Top Poster
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Re: Fox combat special
Giggle....I stirred up ae hornet's nest....Here is the plan, I'm gaunnie turn a double bubble in the heid button (like K&B did on the DF engines) I'm also gaunnie raise the heid clearance tae .019. And I'm usin FAI fuel wi 25% sig castor. I cannae change the crank timing well, (I'm auld and shaky hands) Wish m' luck?
Scotland421- Silver Member
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Re: Fox combat special
I ran the engine today wi the suction insert. What ae pussycat. I love this engine! it works on zero nitro well. I'm no gaunnie modify it. No need.
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Scotland421- Silver Member
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Re: Fox combat special
Cribbs74 wrote:
Is a muffler required where you fly?
A muffler doesnt have to be as restrictive as might be thought. As long as it is seen to be on the engine. "nah, its not that noisy, see ive even put a muffler on it" Lol. Wont defeat the noise meter types, but the odd person in the local park it can work with.

I shouldnt talk, I do have to muffle my engines properly in the local parks to stop exactly that above.
Good luck with your flight!


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Re: Fox combat special
Hiya Yabby, I use zero nitro on all my engines even Cox. The Cox ones , I use one heid shim and get 17K on ae 5X3
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