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Post  rsv1cox Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:00 pm

After responding to newt's P-40 thread

https://www.coxengineforum.com/t15809-p-40-flying-tiger-restore-or-keep-as-survivor

I went to ebay to see what was shakin' P-40 wise and came up with this. (Delivered today along with a NIB Cox .010 TD.)

Slight price increase by about ninety bucks, but I wanted it. Same box, same plane some fifty years later.

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Post  944_Jim Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:37 pm

Bob,

That's the one I was watching! I certainly understand the nostalgia factor, but my wallet doesn't.
I stopped watching it at around $70.

I believe Brodak is kitting it now in their .15-class kits.
https://brodak.com/p40-tiger-shark-15-size-kit.html

Enjoy the build.
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:48 pm

I won't be building it Jim.  Pure nostalgia put-away buy.  I built the original on the dining room table in Great Mills Maryland many years ago listening to Mireille Mathieu on the stereo.  But, that Brodak kit....maybe.  I didn't know they had them, but they are in stock.

I carefully replaced all the loose parts in their respective frames and arraigned I think as it left the factory.  I will steam off the masking tape on the box.  There was a time when finished I threw away the box, plans, and contents.  Now I tend to keep all that stuff.  

Sterling stuff.

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The Corsair I got at a consignment shop half finished and told about it here a few years ago.

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Post  944_Jim Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:27 pm

Bob,
I've been thinking of this plane, and my slightly smaller Scientific (22.5"). Then I did some quick Googling, and came across an old RCUniverse thread regarding the Brodak kit in particular.

While Sterling marketed the kit for "then current" .15 engines,the thread indicated newer .15s would add too much weight. The increased wingload apparently ruins a decent kit. The thread goes on to suggest smaller, newer engines with better power in the lighter package.

I always felt my own was too heavy for the wing area (8.5 oz if I remember right). The RCU thread indicated an Enya .09 or a Norvel .074 (both in hand in the Hobby Closet) would be good engines for the 27" airframe.

What size engine is on your original?
Shoot, that venturi-equipped AP .061 I powered my little one with might even fly the Big Brother just swell!

Thanks in advance,
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Post  fredvon4 Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:25 am

Bob Mears Combat Museum displays of built up planes usually has a kit box included. Many people walking through never had seen (or remember seeing) a completed plane with engine, but almost all remember seeing THAT kit in the hobby shop.

If ever in Lubbock Texas I recommend contacting Bob Mears for a private walk through, even if not "into C/L combat" the displays are well done and Bob and wife Arlene are first class hosts.

Any one interested can contact me for Bob's contact info

RSV1 Bob, never going to happen but the way you collect and display is first class, I dig every one of your nostalgia trips and associated stories
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Post  Ken Cook Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:44 am

Even with period correct engines, these planes were not terrific performers. The stabs are generally too small and by design most of these planes are too heavy. They were fun to build and look at. Fifteen sized airplanes have to fly fast due to wings with thin airfoils and wingspans too narrow. The Sterling kits of this era were designed around the Fox .15 steelfin which had a short lifespan in terms of production as it was essentially made obsolete by the Fox .15X a few years later. The steelfin was a very low performance engine usually demanding shorter length lines.

It's not entirely impossible to fly planes of this size with the engines you mentioned Jim. Your just not going to be able to do so if you were to obtain a Sterling kit. Brodak does kit this plane but the only thing it shares is the outline. Brodak kits are entirely redesigned. Most Sterling kits used the solid leading edge as the backbone of the wing. These are non existent in any kits today and sadly so, most newer kits are very weak and fragile.

Bob Hunt said one day at the field that if you crash your plane and your able to repair it, it was built too heavy. As funny as that sounds, it's entirely correct.


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Post  944_Jim Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:27 am

Ken Cook wrote:
            Bob Hunt said one day at the field that if you crash your plane and your able to repair it, it was built too heavy. As funny as that sounds, it's entirely correct.

Bwahahah...That's me!
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:39 am

Thanks everyone.

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I have posted this picture many times here, I love it so forgive me.  It brings back fond memories.  I don't build or fly to Ken's standards, I'm just a back yard flyer, always have been.  Just me, I'm a strong admirer of Ken and his builds. As I have said before, it's the first model that I ever did stunts with, first thrill of flying inverted.  So easy with this plane.  

The only engine that it has ever had, an Enya 19V and it would really perform.  Pedestrian maybe but it gave me experiences that I will never forget.

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I always aspired up to Nobler class, but it never happened as I moved on to R/C.
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