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Post  bottomgun Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:06 am

Actually the smooth one looks really nice. I'm guessing the ribs were added just for cosmetics, being that the belly pan is aluminum already and pretty strong. rsv1cox, thats a great project car at a good price. It will keep you busy like mine did!
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Post  Marleysky Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:34 am

Looks like I’ve a bit of clean-up and polishing to catch up to your level! I have a couple of the Smooth bottom aluminum Prop Rods that were certainly used. This one looked good in the listing pictures, but up close is a real mess due to the PO reattaching the engine nacelle and letting the glue run all over the back tail and deck.Prop Rod engine screws and restoration  - Page 3 8753fd10
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:07 pm

bottomgun wrote:Actually the smooth one looks really nice. I'm guessing the ribs were added just for cosmetics, being that the belly pan is aluminum already and pretty strong. rsv1cox, thats a great project car at a good price. It will keep you busy like mine did!

Thanks, I might call on you for assistance.  The engine mount nacelle might be a challenge.  

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Post  crankbndr Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:18 pm

Does that blue body decal say Friskies Flyer? Don't see many.
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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:15 pm

Marleysky wrote:Looks like I’ve a bit of clean-up and polishing to catch up to your level! I have a couple of the Smooth bottom aluminum Prop Rods that were certainly used. This one looked good in the listing pictures, but up close is a real mess due to the PO reattaching the engine nacelle and letting the glue run all over the back tail and deck.
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Nice going, @Marleysky, I see another restoration of a historic classic in the making. I gather that there was a possibility that the owner was allowed to customize their cars with various decals, as mentioned by @crankbndr, the "Friskies Flyer" with a drawing of a white poodle head?

It almost cries for me to make my own prop rod similarly patterned after these. I like the sleek "deco" aerodynamic styling of the 1950's, a throwback to the 5 octal tube (valve) radios of the time in the background for a photo shoot. Beer Cheers
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:29 pm

See what you started bottomgun BG for short!

An expanding thread.

What have you got going there Rene?  I don't remember you saying anything about it.  Sudsy Dawn cleanup?  

And BG............What you started.  I can never stop at just one when there are variables.  Smooth bottom, blue/red the inverse of Rene's, almost too nice.  "Make an Offer" - I did, seller right here in West Virginia accepted.

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Post  bottomgun Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:41 pm

For those that need nacelles, redvenomrepros here in CA has them in various colors for both metal and plastic bottom pan cars. They ARE different in the way the inside retaining tabs are designed. I'll get up a picture of my 1964 Prop Rod for comparison later.
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:15 pm

bottomgun wrote:For those that need nacelles, redvenomrepros here in CA has them in various colors for both metal and plastic bottom pan cars. They ARE different in the way the inside retaining tabs are designed. I'll get up a picture of my 1964 Prop Rod for comparison later.

Thanks, I could use one, especially for the first one which is pretty broken up.

I found Rene's decals. $20 - or Make an Offer. I offered $15, don't know if he will accept, but he has "more than 10 available". I'll just pony up if he doesn't accept.

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Post  bottomgun Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:32 pm

Same amount I offered, and he accepted.
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Post  Marleysky Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:40 pm

crankbndr wrote:Does that blue body decal say Friskies Flyer? Don't see many.

Yeah, "Frisky Flyer" is what caught my attention. I know Wen Mac made a Flying Saucer with "frisky flyer" on it, was surprised to see it on a Prop Rod! It's cool that guy has repo stickers in vinyl not water slide. It'll take a whole lotta buffing to polish out those glue stains, but I'll keep working at it.
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Post  crankbndr Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:42 pm

The older nacelles were attached differently. Mine was also glued, I think factory. I had a newer nacelle and had to cut the mounting tabs to fit and glue. Removing the old was a bear.

Took it this far with a stationary belt sander. Need a steady hand, one slip and its ruined.
Took it the rest of the way with a dremmel inside the lines.

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Post  crankbndr Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:43 pm

Marleysky wrote:
crankbndr wrote:Does that blue body decal say Friskies Flyer? Don't see many.

Yeah, "Frisky Flyer" is what caught my attention. I know Wen Mac made a Flying Saucer with "frisky flyer" on it, was surprised to see it on a Prop Rod! It's cool that guy has repo stickers in vinyl not water slide. It'll take a whole lotta buffing to polish out those glue stains, but I'll keep working at it.

I wish I knew the story of Friskies Flyer
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Post  bottomgun Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:48 pm

I sent a message to Callie Graphics to see if she could make me some repro gold oval number decals for my '64. They do great work. Sent a picture along with dimensions. Here's an original ad pic I lifted from and old catalog I had.
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Post  crankbndr Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:59 pm

Marleysky wrote:
crankbndr wrote:Does that blue body decal say Friskies Flyer? Don't see many.

Yeah, "Frisky Flyer" is what caught my attention. I know Wen Mac made a Flying Saucer with "frisky flyer" on it, was surprised to see it on a Prop Rod! It's cool that guy has repo stickers in vinyl not water slide. It'll take a whole lotta buffing to polish out those glue stains, but I'll keep working at it.

I used a 3 inch cotton wheel spun slow with polishing compound worked good
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:10 pm

I'm new to these so I'm learning a lot. I did not know that the nacelles were glued on. Seems labor intensive when a self-tapper up from the bottom would do if caged properly. Thanks to all.

Good luck with Callie Graphics, I can't get them to respond to my emails.

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Post  bottomgun Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:56 pm

They emailed me back earlier today. I paid for them thru paypal and she should be able to get them out in a fair amount of time. I ordered a set of four gold oval decals with the #4. I only need two but I wanted spares. Nine dollars shipped. Now I'm going to figure a way to make the chrome hood scoop strip. I have a few ideas.
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Post  Davenz13 Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:42 pm

crankbndr wrote:
Marleysky wrote:
crankbndr wrote:Does that blue body decal say Friskies Flyer? Don't see many.

Yeah, "Frisky Flyer" is what caught my attention. I know Wen Mac made a Flying Saucer with "frisky flyer" on it, was surprised to see it on a Prop Rod! It's cool that guy has repo stickers in vinyl not water slide. It'll take a whole lotta buffing to polish out those glue stains, but I'll keep working at it.

I wish I knew the story of Friskies Flyer

The Friskies Flier Story

You will have noticed the dogs head on the Friskies Flier decal.

Carnation Farms was created in 1908, when founder E.A. Stuart purchased the original 360 acres of farmland. In purchasing this farm his first priority was to increase the productivity of dairy herds. Stuart’s ideas fundamentally changed milk production, starting with the cows themselves.                              
This is another whole story in itself.

In 1929, Carnation Farms acquired the Albers Milling Company which allowed the company to enter the cereals and animal feeds market. Palatability and nutritional research was expanded at the farm to a larger variety of animals. The largest and most profitable group were dogs and later cats.
The research here opened a variety of consumer products including the Friskies brand.

Friskies was first introduced as a dry dog food brand in 1934 through the Carnation subsidiary Albers Company. The first Friskies brand canned dog food was released in 1951 and nine Friskies products were released from 1958 to 1963. It is during this 1958 to 1963 period that I believe the Friskies Flyer promotion took place.

Remember back in the fifties and sixties when there was a page of advertised toys in or on the back cover of comics. When you bought a certain product, you got a coupon and when you had enough coupons you could send them off to the Company promoting that product and redeem them for the said toy, in this case a Cox Friskies Flier Prop Rod from the Albers Company.
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Post  rsv1cox Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:20 am

So, I guess those Friskies Flyer decals on Rene's car are authentic originals not someone's add-ons?
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Post  getback Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:53 am

bottomgun wrote:For those that need nacelles, redvenomrepros here in CA has them in various colors for both metal and plastic bottom pan cars. They ARE different in the way the inside retaining tabs are designed. I'll get up a picture of my 1964 Prop Rod for comparison later.
I couldn't find any nacelles on his site ?? Help mind is a glued on mess too thats about enough to say Factory .
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Post  getback Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:12 am

And the car looks Fantastic !! Good Fun !
Very Happy
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Post  bottomgun Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:14 am

Getback, I went ahead and put in a link for his page with the nacelles. He also sells them on ebay from time to time. His home page also states that due to personal needs, he won't be back until May 20th.
https://www.redvenomrepros.com/best-buddy-l-cox-cragstan
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Post  getback Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:47 am

thanks' Bottomgun Small Cox Logo Jeep Small Cox Logo
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Post  bottomgun Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:31 am

Trying an experiment with making a repro chrome hood scoop ornament for the pre-Shrike Prop rods.
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Post  Marleysky Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:53 am

looks good! what is it?
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Post  bottomgun Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:10 pm

Plastic styrene sheet and the metal tape used for repairing ducts. I cut it to 3/8 inches wide by 2 1/2 inches long just basing it on close up pics off the internet. Because it was thin, I glued three layers with model car glue to build it up
I have thicker strips in 1/4 inch wide but too narrow. I didn't want to to drive 27 miles to get wider ones.Prop Rod engine screws and restoration  - Page 3 20220452And the finished product:
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It's a lot shinier than the picture shows. Almost like chrome.
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