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Post  Ken Cook Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:42 pm

My combat mentor and good flying buddy Roy made this combat model. He made two of them. We didn't get to fly them the other day but hopefully soon. Pretty neat little planes , lots of details and very cool. I like the ping pong ball which holds the bladder.
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Post  rdw777 Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:07 pm

Nice Ken, I bet they’ll be screamers with the TeeDee .020’s…. Have any stats on weights?… Line length?…. I hope you can catch these on video Very Happy
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Post  TD ABUSER Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:38 am

What a great looking club...!

I tried .020 control line for the first time last summer and was nicely surprised by the performance.
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Post  Ken Cook Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:23 am

I don't have a weight but picking it up was impressive. Roy is a excellent builder. In addition, line length will be 25'. We use Spider wire or equivalent. Regardless of how many times you tell some not to walk over by our smaller stuff,  someone does and the steel line stuff is now ruined.
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Post  getback Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:14 am

Those are some neat looking little planes / are those springs at the bell crank ? Yes the ping pong ball is a good addition ! Thanks for sharing Very Happy
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Post  rdw777 Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:35 am

Ken Cook wrote:Roy is a excellent builder

Yes, I can tell your friend is an excellent builder…. Good designer too….Looks like he’s got the nose and tail moment arms so there’s no extra weight required to balance…. Overall great craftsmanship….I hope you don’t mind, I grabbed the photo to bring it here….

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Post  rsv1cox Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:07 am

I hope you don’t mind, I grabbed the photo to bring it here….

Thanks Robert, and I'm glad that you did.  I don't do Facebook and I was curious.

Interesting concept.......A Speed plane? with a tiny vertical stab and a fat wing????  Contradiction. Interesting placement of the lead-out guides and bell crank.  And, what's up with that fuel tank? Perhaps the explaination was in the text.  

Beautiful job.  I love the transparency.
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Post  roddie Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:34 pm

rsv1cox wrote:what's up with that fuel tank? Perhaps the explaination was in the text.  

That's actually a ping-pong ball/bladder compartment..

Here's the underside...

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Post  1/2A Nut Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:43 pm

Thank you for sharing Ken,
Given the minimal power, I am surprised of all the added drag, would have been better to tuck all that
inside the thick airfoil. The vertical stab is so small it may have very little influence on line tension.
If we are lucky perhaps some vid will be posted, looks like a Cox 4x2.5 should help add a bit more speed. Cool

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Post  Ken Cook Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:09 am

Brad, there's some hidden influence behind that ping pong ball. Larry Scarinzi used bowling pins from table top games in the 60's. Roy was somewhat mocking that. As for the bellcrank, all most every combat plane we build nowadays has external controls. None of us  use line clips as all ends are terminated with loops and therefore we can quickly install lines on and off in seconds. Loop either attaches to bellcrank bushings or a hook and in this case Roy has the plastic sleeves that slide over them. What isn't easily recognizeable here is that this wing is held in by tape. The bellcrank stays with the fuse and there's a 1/64" plywood saddle all the way around the perimeter cutout of the fuse where the wing slides in. If the wing is damaged, tape is removed and wing is slid out and new one put in, no controls to deal with.


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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:01 am

Brad, I watched your video in
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?199489-Post-your-1-2A-pics-2/page160#post53200801
And your .049 TD RC speed demon plane was moving very quickly, adds new meaning to "cooking with gas". Very Happy

Wow, a .020 TD "slow combat" plane, I perceive it will be anything but slow. Thumbs Up lol!
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:00 am

My combat mentor and good flying buddy Roy made this combat model.

Combat model........I missed Ken's first post. Makes sense now.

Ping pong balls, Multi-purpose. This fellow tied them to his outboard motor so it wouldn't sink in case he lost it overboard.

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Post  1/2A Nut Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:51 am

Cool insights, thank you Ken,

I did a TD .020 CL project had a throttle sleeve with a grub screw to set the max rpm.
Could slow fly with calm winds or full bore on windy days very light weight was hard
pressed to damage the plane flying over grass. As I recall it jammed out on 26ft lines.
This one had a rubber band spring back landing gear for hard landings, some pics / vid.
Wing is removable with just two rubber bands for repairs but never needed it tough design.
CNC backplate and carb body sweet setup. Today a APC 4.4x3NE modified prop of choice.
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Option to add a 3rd line for spring loaded throttle control, feather weight for it's size 90.6g / 3.19oz RTF
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Plan patterns can be scaled to the Pee Wizzer .020 or blown up / down for a TD .010 / .049
Larger TD .09 version would have a sexy stance and really power through stunts.
Note US Quarter for quick scale reference:
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Cox TD .020 idle break in / set screw exhaust throttle.
Flew solid from 65% to 100% throttle setting. Kamtechnik turbo plug would be a nice upgrade.

That other vid was one of Chucks efforts, he honed down to a real deal 2ch 1/2A speed plane with
a pressure bladder. Truly one of the top examples of what's possible today.

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Post  Ken Cook Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:41 pm

Your model is certainly top shelf. Looks terrific and exemplifies a lot of thought. I'm currently using a Kamtechnik turbo plug on a Pee Wee. Works terrific.
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Post  rdw777 Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:02 am

Excellent little CL model Brad Very Happy …. Very innovative to use the throttle to set the engine to the conditions at hand Thumbs Up ….. I recently had the pleasure of flying a
Jim Walker Firebaby at about the same weight… 92.1 grams….It’s Wasp engine would would have about 80% of the power of your TD .020 ….Lots of fun to fly these lightly loaded models…. I’ll build a replica one of these days to play with some more….
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Post  1/2A Nut Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:34 am

Thank you gents,
Yes wild or mild settings as desired. The TD .020 is a good match for the size of the plane.
Never did try it over asphalt, floats in on landing plenty of wing for the weight. Almost went
with stunt flaps as the original prop was going to be the Cox 4.5x2 This plane could be done
up with less weight but opted for year in year out seasonal durability. Yes the Fly Baby is
a chuck glider in disguise for best power to weight possible for the day. Proper wood selection
density with some thin laminated ply put forth effort in giving the TD .020 a chance at observing
solid vertical at around 75% throttle.

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