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More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
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More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
This aircraft and its pilot were my favorites from "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines" (though the Englishman and his elegant "Antoinette" ran a close second).
The first few paragraphs of his article capture my youthful aspirations toward several flying machines in my pre-teen years...including an episode of "Space Angel", where a genius kid (there I am!) created his own operational flying saucer: "How hard could it be??!!!"
The first few paragraphs of his article capture my youthful aspirations toward several flying machines in my pre-teen years...including an episode of "Space Angel", where a genius kid (there I am!) created his own operational flying saucer: "How hard could it be??!!!"
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From my "Pre-teen" years Kim, a Guillows Spad that I built while recovering from being run-over by a car. I still remember when and where I built it. My first model airplane. The "built" model is from a crushed ebay buy with a Robert connection. The yellow job on the stand is a Mark flea market buy and the unbuilt kit is from ebay.
I love the Spad. A few WW1 movies feature it.
I love the Spad. A few WW1 movies feature it.
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
I liked the boxy biplane in movie (Farman?)…. Actually they were all really cool and fun to watch…. What a jump in technology from Demoisell to the Spad in only a few short years!!….. The Spad was a really sleek and pretty design…. The wood prop looks appropriate on it Bob…. The grain lines nearly give it a laminated look…. I’ve got a two winger to build in the future ….That’s amazing you still have your first model airplane from pre teen years!!!! …. I don’t have any models from that far back but I do have one engine I know for sure from when I was twelve yo in 1970… A PeeWee .020 from the green version of the Cox Pitts….
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
"That’s amazing you still have your first model airplane from pre teen years!!!! …"
I wish but no, that model probably was tossed by my Mom many years ago or suffered one of Kim's "Viking funerals" when friends and I set our models ablaze while launching them rubber powered props turning full tilt. We actually did that using lighter fluid.
The pictured one was a well bent ebay buy, but it has a beautiful prop.
I wish but no, that model probably was tossed by my Mom many years ago or suffered one of Kim's "Viking funerals" when friends and I set our models ablaze while launching them rubber powered props turning full tilt. We actually did that using lighter fluid.
The pictured one was a well bent ebay buy, but it has a beautiful prop.
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I was trying to think of some of my first models… BB guns and firecrackers come to mind …. Learning the props was fun…. Combines some of the stuff I already had and like to do
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
Man, some serious memories here!
Several of Uncle Wayne's early models survived by being tucked away in an upper room of his farmhouse (like his beloved VECO/Dumas "Scout").
Most of mine have succumbed, but for this Sig "Bearcat" I started as a freshman in high school, and it survived only because it became a Hangar Queen. Like several of Sig's offerings, it was originally a Berkley Kit...though I had no idea of its history.
I didn't have a .15 size engine at the time, but borrowed one from flying bud Kevin to set up the engine mounts. The half-finished kit survived several moves and shed storage 'till I dragged it out in 1976 for finishing and flying...but it only got paint and a hardwood block on its engine mounts to support the "scale" prop I made from a couple notched props.
I wanted badly to do the classic Navy scheme, but only had clear, blue, and white in my Aerogloss inventory. Many guys here who dealt with that "dope" back in the day will remember the incredible prices of the stuff so, civilian scheme it was.
Here, I'm gluing the rudder/fin back on after it suffered a front room crash, and it'll be returned to it's place of honor above my TV.
My Bearcat's "highly detailed" cockpit!
The Bearcat shares my bench with my 1977-built Jetco "Navigator" as the flying boat awaits some radio gear and final finish. It'll be a BIG day when it again flys with its ancient Medallion .15RC.
Also, I got this kit back in 1979 or so, and keeping with my policy of thinning the herd, would like to pass it on if anyone here might want it. It's complete and in pretty fresh condition for its advance years, and I'd like to get $30 plus postage for it. Shoot me a note and I'll pack it full of toilet paper for its trip. Don't know if it'd be a good idea to wait 'till after the holidays to mail it, but whatever works.
Several of Uncle Wayne's early models survived by being tucked away in an upper room of his farmhouse (like his beloved VECO/Dumas "Scout").
Most of mine have succumbed, but for this Sig "Bearcat" I started as a freshman in high school, and it survived only because it became a Hangar Queen. Like several of Sig's offerings, it was originally a Berkley Kit...though I had no idea of its history.
I didn't have a .15 size engine at the time, but borrowed one from flying bud Kevin to set up the engine mounts. The half-finished kit survived several moves and shed storage 'till I dragged it out in 1976 for finishing and flying...but it only got paint and a hardwood block on its engine mounts to support the "scale" prop I made from a couple notched props.
I wanted badly to do the classic Navy scheme, but only had clear, blue, and white in my Aerogloss inventory. Many guys here who dealt with that "dope" back in the day will remember the incredible prices of the stuff so, civilian scheme it was.
Here, I'm gluing the rudder/fin back on after it suffered a front room crash, and it'll be returned to it's place of honor above my TV.
My Bearcat's "highly detailed" cockpit!
The Bearcat shares my bench with my 1977-built Jetco "Navigator" as the flying boat awaits some radio gear and final finish. It'll be a BIG day when it again flys with its ancient Medallion .15RC.
Also, I got this kit back in 1979 or so, and keeping with my policy of thinning the herd, would like to pass it on if anyone here might want it. It's complete and in pretty fresh condition for its advance years, and I'd like to get $30 plus postage for it. Shoot me a note and I'll pack it full of toilet paper for its trip. Don't know if it'd be a good idea to wait 'till after the holidays to mail it, but whatever works.
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
Somebody save me before I do something stupid!
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
944_Jim wrote:Somebody save me before I do something stupid!
Me too Jim,as much as I would like to pull the trigger on Kim's Bearcat.....I ain't gonna do it................ I love his Blue/white Bearcat and would love to build a duplicate.... I reached model airplane/engine saturation long ago and...........I ain't gonna do it!!!!!!!!!!
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rsv1cox wrote:944_Jim wrote:Somebody save me before I do something stupid!
Me too Jim,as much as I would like to pull the trigger on Kim's Bearcat.....I ain't gonna do it................ I love his Blue/white Bearcat and would love to build a duplicate.... I reached model airplane/engine saturation long ago and...........I ain't gonna do it!!!!!!!!!!
So many of us in the same boat!!!!!!!!!
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Kim wrote:rsv1cox wrote:944_Jim wrote:Somebody save me before I do something stupid!
Me too Jim,as much as I would like to pull the trigger on Kim's Bearcat.....I ain't gonna do it................ I love his Blue/white Bearcat and would love to build a duplicate.... I reached model airplane/engine saturation long ago and...........I ain't gonna do it!!!!!!!!!!
So many of us in the same boat!!!!!!!!!
It's a generational thing Kim. Control line so popular in the 40's, 50's replaced/complemented by R/C in the 60's leaves not a lot of us old-timers as a user/buyer pool. The desire is still there but life consumes the time available to pursue.
In 50/60 years from now I wonder what the kids of today would consider to be a major part of their youth. Collecting "Swifty" stuff maybe.
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It's a generational thing Kim.
I was setting up to test run an engine a few weeks ago and a twenty something came up and wanted to watch… Funny to see the few steps taken back after it started and seeing the look on his face even from an .020
I was setting up to test run an engine a few weeks ago and a twenty something came up and wanted to watch… Funny to see the few steps taken back after it started and seeing the look on his face even from an .020
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rdw777 wrote:It's a generational thing Kim.
I was setting up to test run an engine a few weeks ago and a twenty something came up and wanted to watch… Funny to see the few steps taken back after it started and seeing the look on his face even from an .020
Wonder or fear/disappointment Robert..... A shaft turning a propeller, big deal. Todays generation growing up on computer screens and telephones that do all your thinking for you. Whiz-bang stuff, instant gratification. I'm not really downing it, progress sort of. I still believe that most teen males crave mechanicals.
Maybe I should define "Swifties" - that Taylor Swift thing - followers in the millions. C/L, we'll settle for a couple hundred.
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
Yeah, there were several guys in high school that constantly talked about the cars / engines they were building up, with plenty of arguments back and forth about the best way to go. They talked about carburetors, and manifolds and such, which to me at the time was totally Greek. I got a basic, superficial knowledge of all this over time, but they were doing serious stuff, and of course, had their own magazines and manuals for reference.
Though in some ways, we were similar, because they were working jobs and squirreling back cash for their projects just like us, albeit on a larger scale.
Don't know if that's totally gone, but I'd like to think some of it is still out there.
Though in some ways, we were similar, because they were working jobs and squirreling back cash for their projects just like us, albeit on a larger scale.
Don't know if that's totally gone, but I'd like to think some of it is still out there.
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It's still out there Kim. There will always be the thrill of flight and all that entails. It's just hard to compete with modern technology.
Years ago I gave my great grandson an unassembled Cox Babe Bee (and told about it here) along with a parts diagram. I watched him put it together hoping that it would plant a seed. He was 7 or 8 at the time. What are his intrests today, well clothes and cologne.
But, he loves my 350Z so there is hope. His Christmas presents are money, a couple of 350Z Tee shirts and a 350Z hat. When he turns 16 my intention is to give him the 350Z. Bad idea Mark says. Insurance etc. But I remember at 16 driving my 1937 Ford Coupe to school every day, a guy and girl magnet. I also drove it to my job at Toddy Clements chicken farm at fifty cents an hour to pay for it.
Difference: 1937 Ford 60 hp, 350Z 306 hp.
Today there is the Motor Trend Channel. Roadkill Garage, Wheelers Dealers, and my current favorite "Roadworthy Rescues".
Bob
Years ago I gave my great grandson an unassembled Cox Babe Bee (and told about it here) along with a parts diagram. I watched him put it together hoping that it would plant a seed. He was 7 or 8 at the time. What are his intrests today, well clothes and cologne.
But, he loves my 350Z so there is hope. His Christmas presents are money, a couple of 350Z Tee shirts and a 350Z hat. When he turns 16 my intention is to give him the 350Z. Bad idea Mark says. Insurance etc. But I remember at 16 driving my 1937 Ford Coupe to school every day, a guy and girl magnet. I also drove it to my job at Toddy Clements chicken farm at fifty cents an hour to pay for it.
Difference: 1937 Ford 60 hp, 350Z 306 hp.
Today there is the Motor Trend Channel. Roadkill Garage, Wheelers Dealers, and my current favorite "Roadworthy Rescues".
Bob
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
one of my favorite movies as a kid
https://youtu.be/TO7-_fGqGTg?si=_y5MKQifAfxMZ99m
the Demoiselle was and is still one of my favorites. Santos Dumont was brilliant
in the mid 1990s, I got a wild idea that building a Bleriot X1 was really just a large scale model airplane. bought some plans, and made one, but using rudder and elevator, instead of wing-warping. couldn't find an Anzani 3 cylinder, so used a small rotax and prop from an ultralight.
Mostly bamboo, steel wires, bicycle wheels and bedsheets. really simple to build. i may try it again next year when I'm on the new ranch and bored. or a Demoselle...
Why Bleriot and NOT Demo? well, you have to extend the Demo wings, else it will only lift a 90lb pilot.
the PROBLEM was, I don't know how to fly, and I am terrified of small planes!
a neighbor in Dripping Springs had a crop duster, flew, and offered to taxi through the cow pasture, see how it felt, what the trim was like.
well. the second he got up to speed, he took off, flew a few circles and landed, pronounced it the most fun ultralight he ever flew, and demanded I sell it to him. he coached me up to speed once, but demanded I not lift, just go a little, then turn off, which is exactly what I did.
the ex-wife had the build photo album, I have nothing left but memories.
dont know if he still has it, if he still lives there, etc.. its been decades
https://youtu.be/TO7-_fGqGTg?si=_y5MKQifAfxMZ99m
the Demoiselle was and is still one of my favorites. Santos Dumont was brilliant
in the mid 1990s, I got a wild idea that building a Bleriot X1 was really just a large scale model airplane. bought some plans, and made one, but using rudder and elevator, instead of wing-warping. couldn't find an Anzani 3 cylinder, so used a small rotax and prop from an ultralight.
Mostly bamboo, steel wires, bicycle wheels and bedsheets. really simple to build. i may try it again next year when I'm on the new ranch and bored. or a Demoselle...
Why Bleriot and NOT Demo? well, you have to extend the Demo wings, else it will only lift a 90lb pilot.
the PROBLEM was, I don't know how to fly, and I am terrified of small planes!
a neighbor in Dripping Springs had a crop duster, flew, and offered to taxi through the cow pasture, see how it felt, what the trim was like.
well. the second he got up to speed, he took off, flew a few circles and landed, pronounced it the most fun ultralight he ever flew, and demanded I sell it to him. he coached me up to speed once, but demanded I not lift, just go a little, then turn off, which is exactly what I did.
the ex-wife had the build photo album, I have nothing left but memories.
dont know if he still has it, if he still lives there, etc.. its been decades
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
One of my all-time favorite movies Charles. Terry Thomas steals the show.
But not always fun and games. From the current issue of Air Classics - The pictured fellow lost his life flying the Fokker D.VIII replicia with an original engine when the engine compartment caught fire, probably due to a broken fuel or oil line.
But not always fun and games. From the current issue of Air Classics - The pictured fellow lost his life flying the Fokker D.VIII replicia with an original engine when the engine compartment caught fire, probably due to a broken fuel or oil line.
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a visit to Rheinbeck is very very high on my "i wanna go before I croak" list.
burning in a plane is a horrible way to go. but 10000x better than sitting in a bed with tubes and wires hooked up to ya.
burning in a plane is a horrible way to go. but 10000x better than sitting in a bed with tubes and wires hooked up to ya.
rsv1cox wrote:One of my all-time favorite movies Charles. Terry Thomas steals the show.
But not always fun and games. From the current issue of Air Classics - The pictured fellow lost his life flying the Fokker D.VIII replicia with an original engine when the engine compartment caught fire, probably due to a broken fuel or oil line.
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That's scary looking , What you have to stand up to shoot the gun ? I understand they didn't have the technology to shoot through the propeller at the time .
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Hi Kim,
In a back room here,
Is a Sig kit built Demoiselle Dad built many decades ago.
With the then latest GWS geared brushed motor and nicad batteries of the day.
Flew once.
Took two 'laps' to get up to 15ft altitude, two more laps to land.
All at full throttle.
Slow ? It just hung in the air in the dead calm, going nowhere very slowly...
Dad saw it fly, then went on to other projects...
Thanks for the memories...
Take care,
Have fun,
Dave
In a back room here,
Is a Sig kit built Demoiselle Dad built many decades ago.
With the then latest GWS geared brushed motor and nicad batteries of the day.
Flew once.
Took two 'laps' to get up to 15ft altitude, two more laps to land.
All at full throttle.
Slow ? It just hung in the air in the dead calm, going nowhere very slowly...
Dad saw it fly, then went on to other projects...
Thanks for the memories...
Take care,
Have fun,
Dave
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getback wrote:That's scary looking , What you have to stand up to shoot the gun ? I understand they didn't have the technology to shoot through the propeller at the time .
Supposedly the rod coming down from the gun (first picture) into the cockpit allowed the pilot to fire the gun.
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Re: More Fun with the Scanner: My May '67 Issue of Model Airplane News: "The Demoiselle"
dont know if any of yall get the AMA magazine - Model Aviation
but this month has a demoiselle on the cover
https://www.modelaviationdigital.com/modelaviation/library/item/january_2025/4238649/
but this month has a demoiselle on the cover
https://www.modelaviationdigital.com/modelaviation/library/item/january_2025/4238649/
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HalfaDave wrote:Hi Kim,
In a back room here,
Is a Sig kit built Demoiselle Dad built many decades ago.
With the then latest GWS geared brushed motor and nicad batteries of the day.
Flew once.
Took two 'laps' to get up to 15ft altitude, two more laps to land.
All at full throttle.
Slow ? It just hung in the air in the dead calm, going nowhere very slowly...
Dad saw it fly, then went on to other projects...
Thanks for the memories...
Take care,
Have fun,
Dave
Back at you Dave!!!
Maybe drag that Demoiselle out for an upgrade!!!!
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