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Post  ebeneezer on Sun May 27, 2012 2:06 am

Change of plan, My Dad gave me a copy of the Miss America 1960 plan. Designed and drawn by Joe Wagner, last night.
Its fantastic, and guess what the plan shows it Cox 020 powered. I've got to build one. I think I may build 2 fuz's One Cox powered freeflight, and one electric RC. Or maybe make the motor instalation moduler so I can just swap.
I'll keep you posted.
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Post  John Goddard on Sun May 27, 2012 2:23 am

Ebz if you've got a pee wee laying around why not get yourself
A Rainbow or similar from the FMK models site?
The kits are fantastic value at just over a score, have superb laser
Cut everything and even a 10 thumbed idiot like me can throw
One together in 2 evenings. If you ordered one Monday you'd be
Flying it on our coming 4 day weekend.
It would be a gentle re entry into the world of glue and wood.
They are tough as well. Both me and Nitro have done our best to
Destroy ours but they keep coming back for more.
I've even given the plans to one of the guys who flys 'proper'
RC at my club. They all thought I was crackers when I turned up
With these 'daft' little things but I think the fact that I giggle like a
Schoolgirl every time I fly one has become infectious.
Airplane
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Post  nitroairplane on Sun May 27, 2012 5:44 am

Yeah man get something from FMK they are great!
http://www.fmkmodels.com/radio-control-model-aircraft-kits-2-c.asp
Really good fun, great quality wood and cutting.
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Post  ebeneezer on Sun May 27, 2012 8:07 am

I have just looked at the fmk website, very impressive. Sadly I'm more of a SAM kind of guy. And like to build from vintage plans
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Post  Kim on Sun May 27, 2012 8:44 am

nitroairplane wrote:Yeah man get something from FMK they are great!
http://www.fmkmodels.com/radio-control-model-aircraft-kits-2-c.asp
Really good fun, great quality wood and cutting.

I don't blame you for staying on course with this one! THIS Miss America IS beautiful !!! Photos of the build/flight will be appreciated !

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Post  Kim on Sun May 27, 2012 10:15 am

OOPS! Wrong "Miss America"! Sorry !
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Post  ebeneezer on Sun May 27, 2012 10:42 am

Thats The Miss America plan I've got. The plan showes an 020. But that ad says 020 or 049. As my 020 in a model I think I'll use the first Babe Bee I had as schoolboy. Late 60s, that will be kinda neat.






















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Post  Kim on Sun May 27, 2012 10:46 am

ebeneezer wrote:Thats The Miss America plan I've got. The plan showes an 020. But that ad says 020 or 049. As my 020 in a model I think I'll use the first Babe Bee I had as schoolboy. Late 60s, that will be kinda neat.

Oh, OK. I noticed (after posting it) that the Ad said it was designed by Bill Winter (a long-time Editor of Model Airplane News).

Cool deal ! The Babe Bee Lives On !






















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Post  andrew on Sun May 27, 2012 11:03 am

Here's a look at the original Miss America 1960's version (I built one of these about 50 years ago) and the later sheet version --- I think this may be the one Kim posted the ad for.

You may not be able to read it, but the Joe Wagner version shows a 7x2 prop on the .020. Also notice the Wagner version is free flight while the later sheet version has a rubber powered escapement. The free flight version has the characteristic forward placement for the LG and an interesting spring shock absorber.


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Post  ebeneezer on Sun May 27, 2012 12:27 pm

Thankyou Andy I was getting Confused. I have both plans and yes I want to build the freeflight version for 020 and make it Rc rudder assist
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Post  proctor on Sun May 27, 2012 12:46 pm

Top choice, never built it but had a picture on my workshop
wall for years. It said all there was to say about the golden
age of US modelling, which we couldn't entirely understand
but envied more than somewhat.
What year? always thought it was early post war.
Couldn't see the peewee on my picture of course but
the peewee dates it to the 60's
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Post  andrew on Sun May 27, 2012 12:56 pm

proctor wrote:...............What year? always thought it was early post war.
John

John --

The original Miss America was designed by Frank Zaic in 1935 and had a ~7' wingspan. The stick version posted above was scaled down from the Scientific kit (Zaic) by Wagner and published in Model Airplane News in 1960.

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Post  John Goddard on Sun May 27, 2012 3:12 pm

Doh
Not the P51 I was thinking of
Back of the class.......................
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Post  microflitedude on Sun May 27, 2012 5:24 pm

John Goddard wrote:Doh
Not the P51 I was thinking of
Back of the class.......................

Same here John. Smile

Sweet plane!

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Post  proctor on Sun May 27, 2012 6:13 pm

andrew wrote:
proctor wrote:...............What year? always thought it was early post war.
John

John --

The original Miss America was designed by Frank Zaic in 1935 and had a ~7' wingspan. The stick version posted above was scaled down from the Scientific kit (Zaic) by Wagner and published in Model Airplane News in 1960.

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Thanks Andrew my faded old picture was the original 1935 one I'm quite sure.
Yours is nice too John Very Happy
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sun May 27, 2012 11:18 pm

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Post  ebeneezer on Mon May 28, 2012 3:10 am

I have to say, seeing the Cox Miss America P51 Wow. I have a House of Balsa 1/2A P51 kit in my attic. if I could do the paint job justice what a subject. I managed to get a second canopy so I turn my kit into a F82. If I can ever work out how to post pics, I'll post some.

Have a great Memorial day in the USA
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Post  Kim on Mon May 28, 2012 7:39 am

andrew wrote:
proctor wrote:...............What year? always thought it was early post war.
John

John --

The original Miss America was designed by Frank Zaic in 1935 and had a ~7' wingspan. The stick version posted above was scaled down from the Scientific kit (Zaic) by Wagner and published in Model Airplane News in 1960.

andrew

OK...some of this is starting to make sense now! I'm pretty sure that in one of my old mags, there's a photo of the original "Miss America" being donated to the Smithsonian or some such museum, with a section of it's upper wing covering removed to show the rib-work inside. I'll try to watch for it. Problem is that airplane names can be recycled across various models over the decades, and my packed memory can't always sort them out !!!!

At any rate, this will be one cute puppy when it flys !!
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Post  andrew on Mon May 28, 2012 8:27 am

Here's a couple of pics to get your build juices flowing! Very Happy Neither are mine, but they sure look nice.

I believe the top pic is the original 7' version with big plump Trexlers. The bottom pic looks to be the smaller 42" plane, but I can't verify what engine is used. It also appears to have foam wheels.

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Post  ebeneezer on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:38 pm

Change of plan again. Having dicovered the Cox engine forum I've been playing with my Cox engines. I have now obtained a Killer Bee crank and a pusher crankcase. I now plan to convert my Sure Start 0.49 into a pusher diesel. Because I need to build a model requiring a pusher motor, I've decided to build a Vampie. A freeflight sport model designed in the early 60s.
Very loosely based on the DH Vampire. well it has 2 booms. It has a solid balsa wing, and shouldn't take long. I then need to convert another of my Cox engines to a diesel, possibly a TeeDee 0.49. I will then build the Miss America.
I'll keep you posted.

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Post  Kim on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:46 pm

ebeneezer wrote:Change of plan again. Having dicovered the Cox engine forum I've been playing with my Cox engines. I have now obtained a Killer Bee crank and a pusher crankcase. I now plan to convert my Sure Start 0.49 into a pusher diesel. Because I need to build a model requiring a pusher motor, I've decided to build a Vampie. A freeflight sport model designed in the early 60s.
Very loosely based on the DH Vampire. well it has 2 booms. It has a solid balsa wing, and shouldn't take long. I then need to convert another of my Cox engines to a diesel, possibly a TeeDee 0.49. I will then build the Miss America.
I'll keep you posted.


Ah...the infamous "Switch-r-Roo"...very familiar with that behavior !!!!!!

(and Baby Wolf hollers from it's dark corner, "Hey! You forgot 'bout me??!!")
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Post  ebeneezer on Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:56 pm

I'm good at swiching my workshop is testiment to that.
However its an 0.20 I need to convert to a diesel. Thats what I need for my Miss America.
Ideas anyone?
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