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Post  jhaye Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:58 pm

Ron, those .15's are scary alright, but wait till you start flipping a .35, I still have anxiety starting one of my foxes.

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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:37 pm

I ran out of light!

I managed to get all the .049's .020's and .010's done. The numbers were less than I was expecting. I was beginning to think something was wrong with my equipment or setup, but the .010's were right where expected on the numbers. So I guess it is what it is.

The race so far has been real close with only a couple that stand out from the pack. I will post results tomorrow when I finish the .09 and .15 class.

I also had some trouble makers in the bunch so those with entries check your PM's this evening.

That is all.........

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Post  Jason_WI Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:46 pm

How much fuel did you use? Takes a lot of time swapping them out on the test stands. It would go faster of the holes were tapped in the blue test stands and not have to fiddle with 2-56 nuts that are coated in castor oil.

My TD 020 seemed anemic but I sent it anyway. I hope none of mine were trouble makers.....
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:52 pm

@Jason_WI wrote:How much fuel did you use? Takes a lot of time swapping them out on the test stands. It would go faster of the holes were tapped in the blue test stands and not have to fiddle with 2-56 nuts that are coated in castor oil.

My TD 020 seemed anemic but I sent it anyway. I hope none of mine were trouble makers.....

Just shy of 1/2 quart. Your not kidding! It took forever to swap engines on and off. I was thinking the same thing about the tapped holes in the mount.
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Post  dckrsn Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:08 pm

You're doing a yoemans job Ron.
Wish I was there to lend a hand.
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:38 pm

@dckrsn wrote:You're doing a yoemans job Ron.
Wish I was there to lend a hand.
Bob

Thanks Bob, C'mon over!
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:43 pm

I forgot to mention this happened...... Twice.

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I was thinking maybe it was a fluke the first time then it happened again. Both while running at peak.

Wanna hear the kicker? They were both on John Boy's engines!!!!!! Think he will be mad?
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Post  microflitedude Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:51 pm

Ouch.

Never understood how that happens...
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Post  dckrsn Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:08 pm

@cribbs74 wrote:
@dckrsn wrote:You're doing a yoemans job Ron.
Wish I was there to lend a hand.
Bob

Thanks Bob, C'mon over!
I'll be right over. Mad
Regarding the TeeDee starter springs, It ain't you.
I been bitten by this one as well as others I've read about.
I think Rusty had this happen to him a while back.
Something about the revs and harmonic vibration playing tricks with the spring.(Barnyard physics)
I guess that catch part of the spring has to be bent way back.
Yoink the springs, and whip out the stick.
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:49 pm

Yeah they both came off and were re-tested. Funny thing is other guys had springs on theirs and run with the same prop on the same stand. I feel bad......... Especially for the .020 spring as it's hard to find one.
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Post  RknRusty Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:08 pm

Yeah mine ate one in mid flight. I got tired of it happening and quit using them. It ruined the prop every time it happened too.

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Post  dckrsn Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:22 pm

Ron,
Don't beat yourself up. It's a leap of faith when
you send an engine off for something like this.
Any engine could just as easily be lost in the mail
or blow up on the stand. As you know, I didn't enter
this race, but when I entered last years Bee race I knew
anything could happen. I doubt any fellow forum member would
take you to task for a spring or a few scratches.
Ask Kim or Mark's analysts for help. silent
My ruminations.
Bob

Jacob-first post use of the word "rumination"?
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Post  John Goddard Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:37 pm

Man I was gonna take them off as well.
Very Happy
At least they ran and now I can go back to bed
Safe in the knowledge I got up too early,
I think I need to get a life and not eat, sleep
And dream silly toys........
lol!
Ps
Don't tease us
What about the numbers?
Aaaaaaaaaargh

Pps
I've got a spare
Wink
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Post  dckrsn Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:02 am

Babe Bee .049
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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:42 am

Going to knock out the big dogs today. No starter springs on those! I will post final results later on this evening. That is if I have all my fingers Wink

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Post  Jason_WI Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:23 pm

hope you still have all your fingers! Shocked
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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:14 pm

Ok guys here goes the moment has arrived, but first Very Happy I just wanted to say thank you to all you guys who sent in engines and trusting me not to break them.

I learned a few things....

#1 flipping a lot of engines by hand is hard on the finger!
#2 not all TD's are created equal
#3 a TD will run backwards
#4 factory RPM figures are a best case scenario
#5 I hate 2-56 hardware
#6 TD .15's are animals
#7 tach races are fun!

So without further delay here are the numbers from greatest to least in each class.

.010 stock class

Mitch G. 27,720
John Boy 26,700
Jason B. 26,560
Matt M. DNF as in did not fire. Sorry Matt I did everything I could think of.

.020 stock class

Jason B. 18,390
John Boy 15,890

.049/.051 stock class

Paul G. 19,780
Kim S. 19,440
Jason B. 19,410
John Boy 18,890 and 18,840
EME (Matt) 18,150 and 17,580

.049/.051 unlimited

Paul G. 20,760 and 20,070
Jason B. 19,980
Kim S. 19,920
Joe C. 19,820
Matt M 19,420

Medallion .049 stock

Jason B. 11,720

TD .09

Jason B. 15,720
John Boy 14,610
Mitch G. 14,220

Medallion .09

EME 15,290
Jason B. 14,730

Medallion .15

Jason B. 13,890
EME 12,940

TD .15

Jason B around 2K backwards (I tried and tried to get it to go the other way)

Special .15

Jason B. 14, 410

Special .15 MK II

Jason B. 16,180

That's all folks!!!! I will attempt to get them all mailed off tomorrow. I have to go to Ohio for work next week so if I can't get them in the mail tomorrow then it will be the following Monday. I will keep you informed.

Ron


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Post  mitchg95 Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:22 pm

wow, 27,720 rpm Smile
glad everything went well with the race
thanks a bunch for hosting it Ron Smile
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Post  RknRusty Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:26 pm

That was a lot of hard work. Thanks for the early Winter diversion.

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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:09 pm

@RknRusty wrote:That was a lot of hard work. Thanks for the early Winter diversion.

You ain't kidding.......... A lot harder than I envisioned. It was fun though.
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Post  Jason_WI Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:16 pm

Ron,

Thanks again for hosting the event.

I guess I should have sent a reverse pitch prop for the TD 15 lol!

At least you got 2 of the 3 animals started!
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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:40 pm

@Jason_WI wrote:Ron,

Thanks again for hosting the event.

I guess I should have sent a reverse pitch prop for the TD 15 lol!

At least you got 2 of the 3 animals started!

No problem it was fun! I wonder if I was trying to start it too rich? From what I have read it tends to run backward when flooded. I suppose it's possible. I tried all kinds of settings on the NV and flipped the prop in both directions.

It's all boxed up now so I can't try it again. Let me know how it runs when you get it.
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Post  John Goddard Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:38 am

Good Work Ron.
How's the Finger?
What date next year?
lol!
Thanks for the last few weeks build up
And a great weekends entertainment.
cheers

P.S.
Was the 050 really THAT fast?
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Post  Kim Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:52 am

Crazy Momma and S.S.S. kept me in the middle of the pack !!!!!!!!

"Ahhhhhh!" Basking in the glory of mid-range performance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for doing this Ron!

Now, it's time to notify my Press Agent !!!!

Also, please keep "So Stock it's Silly" as a small token of appreciation for your valiant efforts, and return "Crazy Momma" when convenient...there's no rush as the Skunk Works has plenty of fish in the pan anyway!
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Post  Cribbs74 Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:11 am

@John Goddard wrote:Good Work Ron.
How's the Finger?
What date next year?
lol!
Thanks for the last few weeks build up
And a great weekends entertainment.
cheers

P.S.
Was the 050 really THAT fast?

The finger is fine, little tender perhaps. My right bicep and shoulder are very sore. I had to take some excedrin this morning. lol!

Yeah I did not run the .050. I considered it, but seeeing as it was new and unrun I thought better of it.

To be honest the Special .15 MkII made me the most nervous. Not because of the size, more due to the rarity of it. It is a beautiful engine.

Ron
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