The next step for the bulb ban

**Admin** Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:24 pm

Get stocked up on 75 watt light bulbs if you haven't already. Starting today, factories can no longer ship out any more 75 watt bulbs and whatever is in stores now is the last of it. 100 watt bulbs were banned at the start of last year but that was curbed until it went back into effect last August. Stores like Home Depot hoarded these bulbs like crazy and they even have sales on them with great prices so you could probably wait until the middle of the year before stocking up. I must warn though, the last made incandescent bulbs are really bad quality. I bought 4 packs of 100 watt bulbs and I was going to replace one out in the garage, opened up the first box, screwed in the bulb and *ping* it burnt out. One after another, either burnt out the second I turned it on or didn't come on at all. Opened all 4 boxes with 4 bulbs each, none of them were good. These were brand new Osram-Sylvania bulbs, made in China (they used to be made in the US up until a year or 2 ago). I know how to handle bulbs so I never rough handled them, I don't know how they were handled before I got them but I have accidentally dropped a package of bulbs before and they all still worked fine. I took them back to Menards and told them none of them worked. I would guess its just little or no QC with the intention to make them poorly so people would be more likely switch to the CFLs or LEDs. I would look for those packages that still include info on light output in lumens and stay away from packaging that have a "Nutrition Facts" styled chart called "Lighting Facts" in the box.

crankbndr Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:35 pm

The same ruling elite that gave us toilets that don't flush, and showers that don't squirt, now take our bulbs.
The new bulbs won't work on a dimmer and have a harsh light. Burning my 75 watt bulb for a week uses 5 cents of power.
The EPA is an agency out of control and needs to be curbed. Douche bags in DC.

**Cribbs74** Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:43 pm

Lol Douche Bags.......

Jason_WI Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:18 pm

crankbndr wrote:The same ruling elite that gave us toilets that don't flush.

The Eljer Diplomat toilets do flush. I have one and I think you need to keep the small children away when you hit the lever!

andrew Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:20 pm

Admin wrote:I must warn though, the last made incandescent bulbs are really bad quality. I bought 4 packs of 100 watt bulbs and I was going to replace one out in the garage, opened up the first box, screwed in the bulb and *ping* it burnt out. One after another, either burnt out the second I turned it on or didn't come on at all. Opened all 4 boxes with 4 bulbs each, none of them were good. These were brand new Osram-Sylvania bulbs, made in China

My experience, too.

Had a 4 pack of 60W Sylvania bulbs. 1st bulb: ping; 2nd bulb lasted one day (in a room used only in the evening); 3rd bulb: ping; 4th bulb lasted two days. Average lifespan/bulb -- 3 hours. Avg. listed on the box was 1000 hours.

While the design specifications set up by the Sylvania engineers likely would have resulted in a 1000 hour average, I do not believe for a minute that the Chinese plant managers have any intention of keeping or meeting the specifications. Their position is simply, if we don't make them, who are you going to find? You have destroyed your US manufacturing base in search of short term profits. Now we'll sell you cheap products at a premium price and you have no recourse. You don't like our quality control, then find another Chinese plant that's any better.

OK. Rant off.

andrew

crankbndr Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:22 pm

And they are so loud they can be heard across the street.

pkrankow Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:13 pm

crankbndr wrote:And they are so loud they can be heard across the street.

That is my biggest complaint right there!

Most of my house has been switched to CFL and LED lamps already.

The LED's are supposed to dim, but don't...At least I haven't had to get the extension ladder out to change them in 3 years. The incandescent lights would only last 6 months or so in the canisters on my great room ceiling.

Phil

duke.johnson Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:23 pm

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The Eljer Diplomat toilets do flush. I have one and I think you need to keep the small children away when you hit the lever![/quote]

Eljer has been out of business for a couple years. I replace hundreds of toilets a year and American Standard are my chose for sure. The Afwall series. You can also google california toilet testing to see which one is best for you in your area. I thought the feds were just here to protest our borders and money. Maybe if they worked on that we would be a bit better off.

Jason_WI Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:43 pm

duke.johnson wrote:

The Eljer Diplomat toilets do flush. I have one and I think you need to keep the small children away when you hit the lever!

Eljer has been out of business for a couple years. I replace hundreds of toilets a year and American Standard are my chose for sure. The Afwall series. You can also google california toilet testing to see which one is best for you in your area. I thought the feds were just here to protest our borders and money. Maybe if they worked on that we would be a bit better off.

Eljer is an American Standard company. They must have bought the name or the buisness.

JPvelo Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:39 am

Jason_WI wrote:
crankbndr wrote:The same ruling elite that gave us toilets that don't flush.

The Eljer Diplomat toilets do flush. I have one and I think you need to keep the small children away when you hit the lever!

I really like the idea of using a toilet called the "diplomat", makes it sound like important work is going on.

crankbndr Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:53 am

JPvelo wrote:
Jason_WI wrote:
crankbndr wrote:The same ruling elite that gave us toilets that don't flush.

The Eljer Diplomat toilets do flush. I have one and I think you need to keep the small children away when you hit the lever!
I really like the idea of using a toilet called the "diplomat", makes it sound like important work is going on.

Flush three times, its a long way to the White House

andrew Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:53 am

JPvelo wrote:

I really like the idea of using a toilet called the "diplomat", makes it sound like important work is going on.

Outcome is usually the same!! What?

John Goddard Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:07 am

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I really like the idea of using a toilet called the "diplomat", makes it sound like important work is going on.[/quote]

That's funny JP
Next time I'm sat 'in the office'
I'll be thinking of those hard won, tough, intractable
Issues and treaties.
Finally the paper work that follows...
lol!

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