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Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:14 pm

I was flying well tonight and was in the middle of a stunt frenzy when I lost sight of the clown in an overhead eight.  It went behind my back and I heard it hit before I had a chance to turn around. Can you believe it didn't bust the MA prop!!!!



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Re: Too Cocky?

Post  dckrsn on Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:22 pm

Cocky? Not at all.
Damage looks repairable and
you were FLYING!
Well worth it.
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Post  JPvelo on Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:36 pm

I got cocky and did that with my Satan about 2 months ago. I was literally trying to fly behind my back. Bad idea.

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Re: Too Cocky?

Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:44 pm

Yep,

I'm flying. Putting some serious time on that Medallion. I am going to switch to the contest TD on pressure.

The overhead eight is entered from a wingover so I wonder if I am doing the first loop on the wrong side? The outside is wide and goes way behind me so I have to think quick.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:40 pm

I just seperated the wing from the fuse. What a mess!!!

The Clown is going to be down for a while. Not to worry though. I wish I had my BFS built right about now.....this puts a serious damper on my training. I wonder if I can get my Baby Ringmaster to fly like this one while I do repairs.

My guess is my many crashes have finally taken it's toll. Can't complain too much as my skills are improving and these kind of things are getting pretty infrequent.

Yes Rusty, I will remove the less than manly Clown decal.

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Post  RknRusty on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:05 pm

Dang, I've been offline all day, got a lot of catching up to do. Got my first smart phone today.Rolling Eyes 

I almost busted the SS doing OH8s but for the opposite reason, not big enough loops and it fell out of the sky. A hot 1/2A won't fall like that. Watching some Youtube videos, pilots do it differently, but the best ones always have their knees bent so they can bend back and look up and behind. But the Baby planes are so fast you might rupture a disk trying to do that. I've been wanting to practice OH8s all week and haven't put a plane in the air since August 8th. I'd been planning to try it with the Baby Streak and the APC 6x2 on 40 or 45'.  

Wayne and I are going Sunday with the SS so if I come to any revelations, I'll tell you what worked for me. I get confused just doing it in my head. Ron, you're doing it OTS style, right? Either way, you start like a wingover, let it fly straight overhead and then feed in up elevator for the first turn, and the first half loop should come to the 45 degree high(in AMA) level, and keep on turning until it's where you started the turn, then down elevator for the second half. And the hell of it is, you have to do all that twice, and finish the wingover without getting a back spasm.lol!

Watch Paul Walker do a perfect one at 3:05, but it doesn't show his posture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXFelZaO9LI

This shows him better at 1:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=no0VY6RnYPs#t=119


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Post  RknRusty on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:06 pm

Oh, yeah, I'm really sorry about the little Clown. That sucks.

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Post  happydad on Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:23 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:I was flying well tonight and was in the middle of a stunt frenzy when I lost sight of the clown in an overhead eight.  It went behind my back and I heard it hit before I had a chance to turn around. Can you believe it didn't bust the MA prop!!!!



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Ron: be sure to use a plywood or hardwood brace on both LE and TE sides of the wing. maybe even span a couple of ribs, like 4, for a little extra strength. light ply shouldn't add too much weight, but use good hard ply not the cheap stuff.   happydad Small Cox Logo
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Post  RknRusty on Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:08 am

My Refried Bean is broken sort of like that, but a cleaner break. I haven't been sure how to fix it. I'll be watching this repair.

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Post  pkrankow on Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:38 am

My bean broke like that too. The LE cracked at a rib. I made a gusset, butt glued then put the gusset in and recovered.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:10 am

The wing is broken at the leading edge and trailing edge. For some reason I didn't heed my own advice (Ken's) and glass the TE. I built this one a while back so perhaps I didn't know about it at the time.

I have an Original 50's Matt Kania PDQ Baby Clown the wingspan is 2" shorter than the Brodak version, but it looks so much nicer in design. What I plan on doing is tracing the PDQ version onto a new piece of wood and using that in place of the old fuse. The old fuse has been snapped many times and is really just plain worn out. It's held together with epoxy and tooth picks. I will repair the Brodak wing and affix it to the PDQ fuse as it has a couple more sq" reuse the tail pieces and it should fly as well as the old one.

I really need a 1/2A stunt trainer to keep practicing so expect a quick turn around on this. Maybe it would be quicker to build th BFS..... Wink

I will post pictures tonight so you can see the difference in the PDQ version.

P.S. Rusty the PDQ kit decal just says "Baby Clown" in script much less dorky. I'll make a copy of the original as it's probably pretty rare.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:31 am

BTW thanks for the vids Rusty, looks easy when someone else does it. The OTS rules have you do three in a row of each horizontal, vertical and overhead.

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Post  duke.johnson on Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:39 am

Cribbs74 wrote:BTW thanks for the vids Rusty, looks easy when someone else does it. The OTS rules have you do three in a row of each horizontal, vertical and overhead.

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Paul Walker makes every thing look easy, don't compare yourself. I just watch his flights our contest a couple weeks ago. Be lucky he's not in your club, the Expert PA guys in our club have to fly against him every contest. That video was a few years ago by the looks of it.
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Post  RknRusty on Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:40 am

Cribbs74 wrote:BTW thanks for the vids Rusty, looks easy when someone else does it....
Especially when that someone is a national champion.

Cribbs74 wrote:Rusty the PDQ kit decal just says "Baby Clown" in script much less dorky.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:23 am

Think I know what I am doing wrong. I am trying to do a vertical overhead 8 instead of a horzontal one. I should be working left to right not front to back....
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Post  RknRusty on Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:41 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:Think I know what I am doing wrong. I am trying to do a vertical overhead  8 instead of a horzontal one. I should be working left to right not front to back....
Absolutely, look at your avatar. Your up elevator loop is over your right shoulder and visa versa. Making the turn to finish the exit is where I have yet to figure out the best body transition so as not to get off balance and ugly it up.
Or fall down.lol! 

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