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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:23 pm

Many of us have very fond memories of the PT-19 as they were, for many of us, our first CL plane. I would like, with your help, to put a chronological pictorial history (with dates) of the various models.

1st Generation PT-19
The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_pt11

1st Generation PT-19 (Reverse Colors)
(Need Pic)

2nd Generation PT-19
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2nd Generation PT-19 (Revese Colors)
(Need Pic)

2nd Generation PT-19, Canadian Air Force
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2nd Generation PT-19, Canadian Air Force (Reverse Colors)
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2nd Generation PT-19, Quiet Zone
The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_qz11

2nd Generation PT-19, Quiet Zone (Reverse Colors)
The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_qz10

(1981-1984) 3rd Generation
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(1985 - ?) 3rd Generation
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4th Generation PT-19, Sure-Start
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:56 pm

Couple more, not sure what dates...

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Coxpt19redb

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer CoxYellow-pt19-3

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Coxpt19x
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Post  craig bernard on Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:56 pm

How many colour combinations did they make six perhaps?am i right
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Post  craig bernard on Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:59 pm

The red one must be kind of rare i surf ebay alot and this is the first time i seen one very nice!
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:40 pm

craig bernard wrote:How many colour combinations did they make six perhaps?am i right

That would be the purpose of this thread Smile I know of more then 6.
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:54 pm

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_qz10
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Post  craig bernard on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:01 pm

Thats a nice colour scheme as well i guess you could swap colours that cox didnt even offer so there could be qui te a few combinations!thanks i enjoyed the pitures
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:23 pm

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_pt10

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_qz11
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:37 pm

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_pt11
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:41 pm

craig bernard wrote:Thats a nice colour scheme as well i guess you could swap colours that cox didnt even offer so there could be qui te a few combinations!thanks i enjoyed the pitures

I think these two have been swapped from original
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Post  WingingIt74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:50 pm

The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_pt12
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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:27 pm

Great pics Travis. Hopefully Mark or Mud pop on and round this thread out.

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Post  RknRusty on Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:03 pm

Man, you guys are making me want to fix my old PT19 up. it's front end of the fuse is pretty beat up. I even replaced one side of the nose with balsa. The LG wire broke and it needs some more balsa to get it back in action.

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Post  Mark Boesen on Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:16 pm

Intro'd in '60 as a replacement to the TD-4, dates are close as I'm guessin!

First 3-4 years it had a black spinner, painted pilots in '66, closed nose appx. '70
blue/yellow
yellow/blue
QZ series -1966-'69
red/white
white/red
All white with feather decals- early eighties

Canadian version was made mid seventies, probably the rarest version, it was made under license for the Canadian market.
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Post  Mark Boesen on Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:26 am

Also pt-19 was made under licenses in Australia and I think England as well.

Canadian version was '74 or later as it has the twin orange full torso pilots.

(I've got about 3 dozen photos of the pt-19 on the 049 group)

Here's the first version, notice the 'new' Thimble-Drome prop.

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Post  John Goddard on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:16 pm

I'm not sure Tri ang made one here.
Certainly when I bought mine in Hamleys in Regent Street
in 72 it was a US made one. This was at a time when
they also sold the Tri ang Fledgling which was made
here.
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Post  SuperDave on Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:35 pm

My fondest memories as salvaging broken ones in the days following Christmas.  Devil 

Rookie pilots crashed them with regularity due to the pilot's inexperience so in the trash they went.

Actually they only thing they were good for is flying "roundy- round". Trying to successfully loop one was near impossible. The wing, lacking a symetrical airfoil was the principle reason they were lousy to fly.

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Post  getback on Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:48 pm

WingingIt74 wrote:The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_pt12
 I think this is the one I had should have been around 68 or less my memories are there but I can remember were I was at the time ,?? only thing I may have left would bee the 049 baby bee ! not the killer bee Rusty got the special edition  lol!  lol! But SD they did fly and that was a helliva lot back then Very Happy
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Post  SuperDave on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:08 pm

Travis:

"Back then" I was fly nothing other than full-size Class A and B stunters some of which I have previously mentioned. My very first Cox engine was salvaged from a trash can. Never did I envision becoming a Cox convert.

Times change and PEOPLE change and here I am on CEF to most everyone's amazment.

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Post  JPvelo on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:14 pm

What is the wingspan/length of one of these pt-19s?
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Post  getback on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:39 pm

getback wrote:
WingingIt74 wrote:The infamous Cox PT-19 Control Line Trainer Cox_pt12
 I think this is the one I had should have been around 68 or less my memories are there but I can remember were I was at the time ,?? only thing I may have left would bee the 049 baby bee ! not the killer bee Rusty got the special edition  lol!  lol! But SD they did fly and that was a helliva lot back then Very Happy
 Sorry Rusty I was wrong    
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This is a typical sample of a product engine with the "horseshoe" back plate. This particular model was used in the trainer PT-19 with a left turning propeller and spring starter.  I am still missing a matching rubber spinner for this engine.

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Post  Bill steklenski on Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:37 pm

These are Really Beautiful photos of Your PT 19 Planes, I remember when I was a kid flying these, It was so much Fun! They could withstand any type of impact and keep on going. I flew the last generation PT 19 about 5 years ago and then became dizzy. I know some of the Guys from the Garden State Circle Burners who fly Control line just about all day long and don't get Dizzy. Good luck and Happy Collecting!
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Post  Kim on Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:40 am

WONDERFUL airplanes!!!

Of course, like ALL lineages, the bloodline COULD take a disturbing turn once in a while...

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Post  roddie on Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:12 pm

JPvelo wrote:What is the wingspan/length of one of these pt-19s?

Jim, I noticed no one answered your question here.. Mine has a 22.5" w/s.. an 8.5" tail-span.. and measures 15.375" from the front of the fuse to the T/E of the stabilator (which extends about 1.0" past the rear-most point of the fuse.. and about .375" past the rudder)
Wing area is approx. 100 Sq. in. and stabilator area is approx. 22 sq. in. and it's central hinge/pivot-point is approx. 30% back from it's leading-edge.

The stabilator/tail-plane of this model is a nice design feature .. from a durability standpoint. The part that breaks (eventually.. with enough mishaps) is the fuse. My model is on it's 2nd fuse because the 1st one is pretty beat-up. The fuel tanks have been problematic on mine too. (they pop off and won't stay on anymore) There's plenty of room for a short wedge-tank, balloon tank or bladder inside the nose though. This would at least give the model the ability to fly inverted.
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Post  Canso07 on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:07 pm

Hello everyone,

I just bought this cox PT-19 trainer and odds and ends for $50 CAD. Great deal I think? This one is reverse colors from the normal model. The guy had it new since 1963 when he was a child. He said he only flew it a couple of times but got to dizzy and it sat since then. Does anyone know the average value of this model? Any other info of this model would be appreciated.

Thanks Curtis.
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