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Post  jhaye on Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:03 pm

My son is just started to show a interest in CL. He really likes the Lil Wizard plane. I'm curious if anyone has a PDF of this plan that they would be willing to e'mail me.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:32 pm

Jim,

As with most Goldberg plans they don't have proper drawings. I will take a look and see what I have.
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Post  jhaye on Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:45 pm

Ron,

I didn't know that. Any help would be appreciated. My son soloed on my Ringmaster yesterday. He's showing some interest in modeling at the moment and wants to build a 1/2A. Kevin Ferguson was flyin his "Lil Wizard" and Brett liked it. I've got a zillion 1/2A plans, but he really wants to build this one. Even some measurments off of one would work. I can probably draw one up with some measurements and a couple of pictures of it. Brodak has the plan for 4 bucks but wants 10 dollars shipping. Thing is I don't need a big Brodak order at the moment. Thanks for any help.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:20 pm

Jim,

I wish you could have hit me up a couple weeks ago as I would have had time to trace things out. I am headed to Idaho for 3.5 weeks tomorrow and am packing at the moment. I ran out and snapped a couple pictures, but they won't help much.

If you can wait I will trace my built one when I get back.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  RknRusty on Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:23 pm

If it exists, Andrew probably has it. He has all of his plans on PDF listed over at RCG. He's Andrew0820 there, but I don't have a link to his files. Maybe shoot him a PM.
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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  jhaye on Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:27 pm

Ron, no worries it's not that urgent.

Rusty, thanks for the tip.




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Re: plans for the CG lil Wizard

Post  happydad on Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:42 pm

I Google searched "Carl Goldberg lil Wizard" and ended up on the Stunt Hanger Control Line Forum.

link:
http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=20573.0

after scrolling down a little there were references to the Brodak lil Wizard being very similar to the CG and a couple of pictures. You might try to contact one of the members referenced in the 2011 thread.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:04 pm

I forgot that the Brodak version was a beam mount. It would be a whole different airplane with a Medallion on the nose as opposed to a Babe Bee.
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Post  happydad on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:33 pm

Ron: from what I read on the Stunt Hanger CL forum the Brodak kit also comes with the balsa and ply for a babe bee type mount as shown in the pics in the previous posts. But as you mention the plane would perform much differently with a TD or Medallion /049 engine. The flat balsa wing may not help too much with stunt maneuvers.

   BTW what do you call a Baby Ring Master with a constant chord wing instead of a tapered wing toward the wingtips?

 Isn't that what a jumping bean looks like?

   I am thinking of building another Baby Ring Master, but with a constant chord wing. And maybe 1 more rib on each side to add a little more wing area for better stung performance.
    Any thoughts?

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:11 pm

The only thing similar to what you are speaking of is the Beginners Ringmaster. It's almost a constant chord, but not exactly.

I flew one recently and it's a lot better than my L'il Wizard. Well not a lot, but better.

Here is mine, is this what you are talking about?


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Post  RknRusty on Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:26 pm

There are a lot of differences between the Bean and the Ring. Here's my old Bean. I was going to say it had a longer tail moment than the Ring, but not so much comparing these two pictures. The Ring has a massive stab/elevator compared to the Bean.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  jhaye on Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:32 pm

Someone told me a while back that the jumping bean is a 1/2 A version of a shoestring. They do look similar. Hey Rusty how's the Skyray going. I maiden ed mine on Saturday. What a sweet flying plane. Anyway, still looking for the "Lil Wizard" plans. I went over on the RC forum and looked for the fellow you suggested, couldn't find him in the listings. Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  RknRusty on Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:49 pm

Jim, you can just type "Andrew" into a new PM here on this forum. He drops in most days and will probably see this thread and respond too.

The new skyray I'm building is coming along nicely. I flew the crap out of the old one Yesterday. To the casual observer the new one will look like a Flite Streak, but it's all Ray except balsa ribs. If I knew, I didn't remember you were building one. I'm glad to hear it maidened well, I sure hope mine does, because it's going to get a major workout the rest of the Summer and hopefully survive until Huntersville in October. It should maiden in no more than two weeks. I just updated my build thread a couple of hours ago. Here's a link to today's post:
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t6627p100-skyray-35-build-faux-streak-look#87244

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Post  pkrankow on Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:18 pm

I'll try to post pictures of my lil wizard tomorrow. No promises though. I got some nice new measuring sticks to lay down with it too.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  jhaye on Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:29 pm

Rusty, I didn't really mess with build thread with this build. It only took me a month and I built it with and older modeling friend because I'm trying to learn from some of the senior members in the club. We built it stock other than adding a adjustable leadout and permanent flaps on the trailing edge. Plane fly's beautiful. I'll try and post a PM to that fellow on here. Thanks again.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:51 pm

RknRusty wrote:

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Of the way we were.....

 lol! 

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Post  RknRusty on Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:30 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:
RknRusty wrote:
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 lol! 

Yep, the old days. Here I am about to maiden. Holley took the picture and launched it for me.

A boy and his toy!

I hope Jim doesn't mind us hijacking his thread.
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Post  andrew on Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:05 am

I've checked both my home machine and my office computer --- that's one plan I don't have. Sorry, guys.
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Post  happydad on Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:24 am

Cribbs74 wrote:The only thing similar to what you are speaking of is the Beginners Ringmaster. It's almost a constant chord, but not exactly.

I flew one recently and it's a lot better than my L'il Wizard. Well not a lot, but better.

Here is mine, is this what you are talking about?




Ron: actually I meant the ribbed version with a constant chord. I'll post pictures when I start building the wing. After I send you the Spook .020 balsa plane ARF and the Spook .049 Balsa kit parts. Soon.  P.S. how does the babe bee haul the beginners RM?

so the BRM constant chord wing would look something like this:  Also I was thinking of adding 1 more rib on each side to make the wing 24 - 25inchs.



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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  Theo Kleynhans on Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:51 am

The baby ringmaster is a nice 1/2A. And a really easy build. Mine is like a rocket with the babe bee shown in the picture.

Here is mine:




Regarding the Lil Wizard, I might have something. I also wanted to build it a while back and I think I traced some of the parts.

Will check and let you know.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  Oldenginerod on Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:49 am

Check this article.  Couldn't find the plans on their site though.

http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/cl_tr_gbwizard.htm

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Post  batjac on Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:30 pm

Oldenginerod wrote:Check this article.  Couldn't find the plans on their site though.

http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/cl_tr_gbwizard.htm

Rod.

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Re: Looking for plan's for the "Lil Wizard"

Post  jhaye on Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:48 pm

Thanks fella's plan's in the mail thanks to a fella over on BHOTR forum. I've got 3 baby ringmaster's because I'm just a tad ringmaster crazy. I actually own 6 Ringmasters. The 1/2A RM is a good fliers but not really a good trainer. I appreciate all your help.

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Post  pkrankow on Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:05 pm





I got more, but if you have then I'm not going to fuss. This is my first airplane, Dad and I built it when I was 7 or so.

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