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Post  larry bouma Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:40 pm

I have one of these which I have not run in 60 years. It turns over nicely. Cannot remember what I need to start it other than fuel!! I remember I had to attach a battery to the spark plug and then turn my bike over and run the tire on the bike wheel. One of my tires is pretty worn from doing that. Actually I have a new replacement tire I never mounted. Any advice on staring it again would be appreciated. Thanks
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Post  Cribbs74 Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:30 pm

Hey Larry,

Welcome to the forum!


How long has this car sat unrun? The reason I ask is it may need more attention before you fuel it and attach a battery.
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Post  crankbndr Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:56 pm

Is it a Rodzy like this one?

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These are instructions for starting a similar engine

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Post  larry bouma Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:32 pm

Yes except it is red. Seeing your pictures reminded me that I no longer have the gas adjustment knob! Any way to find those or make one? It has not run for 55+ years so should I clean the engine before trying to start?
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Post  larry bouma Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:34 pm

Thanks very much for sending the instructions!!
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Post  larry bouma Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:42 pm

Can I have permission to print those directions and if so how do I do it?
Again thanks.
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Post  crankbndr Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:12 pm

If you send me your email address in a PM (private message) I can send them as attachments that you can print.
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Post  crankbndr Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:17 pm

larry bouma wrote:Yes except it is red. Seeing your pictures reminded me that I no longer have the gas adjustment knob! Any way to find those or make one? It has not run for 55+ years so should I clean the engine before trying to start?

I don't know where to find a needle valve but will keep an eye out for one

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Post  pkrankow Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:34 pm

I recommend you search through your stuff, the needle is pretty important for someone to just take out of a otherwise functional device. I have kids, and I recall being one once too so I understand. It would also surprise me little if the needle is identical to another engine from the period.

Hopefully someone here has a similar engine and can do a thread count and measure the basic dimensions.

You could swap the entire spray bar with a modern needle valve assembly if all else fails. I bet a Fox or OS or any of many other spray bars could be installed with little fuss.


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Post  larry bouma Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:29 pm

Since I am a new member I cannot post a pm for 7 days. I tried. I will try again in a week.
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Post  getback Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:54 am

WELCOME !! to the forum Larry , I don't have or do cars at this time But , if it were me from past experience it would take some of the guess work out to go ahead and clean the engine put a couple drops of oil in the exhaust after cleaning to insure lubrication and try to find that needle as crankbndr said probably not far away . Good luck and keep us posted we love updates > Getback Very Happy 
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Post  crankbndr Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:51 am

I found the needle valve and body in Woody Bartelts catalog #10E, he has thousands of old parts both reman and OEM. He is picky about how the order is placed and needs an order form and catalog
number to buy a part. He has a web site also where the order form can be downloaded. He sells his catalogs on eBay, he's not cheap but he has the parts.

Link to his site      Woody's Model Engines     http://www.woodysengines.com

Scan of his catalog, the parts are on page 17 for Cameron 09, 15, 19 and 23

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Post  Kim Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:11 am

WELCOME to THE FORUM LARRY !!!

And yes, please keep us posted on your progress!!
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Post  larry bouma Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:44 pm

Thanks for the great information on Woody Bartelts site!
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