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Post  johnv58 Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:13 pm

Looking for some help, just got going on a restoration of a Baja Bug. The engine I have is the black handle pull start. Took it apart since it was all gummed up. Got it working really free, on reassembly it seems I am missing something (may have been missing when I got it). I have the plastic housing and plastic spinner with cable, then the spring is wound around inside housing. There is a flat (thrust) washer on top then the cut-out washer with the word UP printed on it, I put this assembly on the crankcase and attached the snap ring. There must be another piece because the way it is now when the cord is pulled there is nothing to transfer the motion to the crank.
Sorry for the lengthy explanation, any help would be appreciated.

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Post  Admin Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:23 pm

Do you remember seeing 2 small metal discs, those stop the engine from spinning backwards.

Does your engine look like this?
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Post  johnv58 Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:50 pm

No I do not recall seeing the 2 small discs, and I do not see a pic if you were posting one - thanks.
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Post  Admin Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:02 pm

I fixed the picture! I forgot I couldn't steal pictures from my Google site as Google has the pics protected from being linked from offsite locations. Anyway, You need the discs there so the pull starter can turn over the engine. I'll go take apart my recoil to show you the discs... Check back here in a few minutes.
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Post  Admin Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:09 pm

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The discs in place

I can't for the life of me remember what they are called...
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Post  johnv58 Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:17 pm

That's a great help, they must not have been in there. I don't imagine they are available anywhere. I might be able to make some since I'm a toolmaker. Thanks for your help !
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Post  johnv58 Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:20 pm

While you have it apart is it possible for you to measure the thickness and diameter for me, will save me from having to guess.
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Post  Admin Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:27 pm

I would be more then happy to give you the measurements but I cant find my micrometer, I have been looking for it for a week. Maybe Matt or Bernie will weigh in on this topic and give you the exact specs. I couldn't imagine it would be too hard to make them, get a rod the same diameter of the discs (centrifugal starter clutch flyweights, just remembered the name) and cut them down to the right thickness... Shouldn't be too hard.

I'll try to give you a rough measurement with a tape measure...


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Post  Admin Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:33 pm

OK, I got a diameter of 5/32" and a thickness of 1/16"
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Post  johnv58 Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:37 pm

Thanks a million, my first post and got the problem figure out it less than an hour, thanks again.
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Post  Admin Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:40 pm

No problem! There is always someone on here that will be able to help!
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Post  TomD550 Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:39 am

As a new member the old posting was a great help to me !
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Post  Admin Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:12 pm

Welcome to the forum Tom!

More detailed recoil starter overhaul instructions have since been uploaded here: https://www.coxengineforum.com/h24-instruction-sheets#related_docs

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Post  TomD550 Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:46 pm

Thanks and the Overhaul Procedure is exactly what I needed! Very happy to have found this resource.
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:11 pm

Those discs could also pass as a Pawl.  Different designs and applications.

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Post  BigGreen2000 Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:43 pm

I’ve got an engine and drive shaft in search of a car. Any thoughts?
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Post  Admin Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:31 am

Welcome to the forum.

Well, what kind of engine and drive shaft? Do you have a picture. If you're looking for a Cox chassis for it, we will need to know a little bit more, otherwise you might be able to build a car using those parts.

You might be better off starting a new thread about your parts.


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Post  rsv1cox Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:10 am

BigGreen2000 wrote:I’ve got an engine and drive shaft in search of a car.  Any thoughts?

Many times it's the other way around.

As Jacob suggested, start a new thread with pictures. You might need to post here a few time first to meet the time requirement.
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Post  Lemmi Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:06 pm

Hi everyone,

I have a Dune Buggy since 1971 and as a kid I folled around a bit and ist not in a nice condition anymore. Recemtly I found it and thought, I could give it a fresh up.

There are some party missing, but my 3D Printer will take care of it. I drew the tires for 3D printing in rubber. The look good, but the ruber I used, is not soft enough. If anyone wants to try it, I can give the STL-files. I go for the Tamiya tires for the moment.

But I realized, that some parts ar missing, which I cannot reproduce with my printer. So there are the 2 little flyweights. I'll have to find something, what will fit.

The spring in the starter is bent, too. I will try to bend it back and hope, it won't break. The starter cable is not in the best shape as well. Does anyone know, where I can get one or how to replace it?

I'll try to add some pictures of the tires.

Cheers,

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Post  vambrosini Mon May 13, 2024 8:57 pm

I will can help you with starter. ravembroidery@aol.com
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