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Post  Theo Kleynhans on Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:41 am

Hi Guys

My old friend is looking for the plan for a combat kitten.

Is there someone that can help me with a scan of the plans?

I will really appreciate the help.

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Post  oldguy on Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:05 am

Theo Kleynhans wrote:Hi Guys

My old friend is looking for the plan for a combat kitten.

Is there someone that can help me with a scan of the plans?

I will really appreciate the help.

Theo

Here's a place.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6410
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Post  pkrankow on Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:14 pm

There is a half box of combat kittens at my parents house. It will be a while, hopefully before summer, that I can get up there and get tracings of the parts. Since the LE and TE are pre-shaped I will only be able to provide an image of the cross section and dimensions.

This has been a "back burner" project since the kit showed up. Originally it was packaged as a double kit. One was built out of the box.

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Post  Kim on Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:30 pm

Don't know if it'll help...but I got this.

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Post  Theo Kleynhans on Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:30 pm

Thank you Guys. Much appreciated!!

This is one I wanted to build for a very long time.

The older guys around here say it flew better than a Lil Satan. Got to try it.

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Post  fredvon4 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:32 am

Just pulled down my un-built Kitten double kit and checked

For a scratch build get the
Sig pre shaped LE that is listed as 1/2" x 3/8th inch
And the Sig 1/4" x 1 inch TE is the correct wing side thickness but width gets cut back to 7/16ths and at those dimensions is the correct TE profile

Each 36 inch long piece is only enough for one 21 inch wing span plane

The plywood items are 3/32nds

TE after the spar, center spar, and center ribs are on a 5/64th sheet
Rib sheet is 1/16th
Stabilator sheet and wing sheeting are also 1/16th
Nacelle and nose fairings are on 1/4" sheet
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Post  RknRusty on Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:40 pm

Theo Kleynhans wrote:Thank you Guys. Much appreciated!!

This is one I wanted to build for a very long time.

The older guys around here say it flew better than a Lil Satan. Got to try it.

Theo
Hi Theo, good to see you drop in for a visit. Happy new year.
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Post  getback on Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:19 pm

I got a couple of those kittens that has been up/down and all around can't remember last time I flew my but you will need to make sure the CG is correct , mine flyer was tail heavy and unflyable . I have mounted a wheel (single) up front but need to cover it again , maybe that's why one looks better than the other. Fred do your plans say were the CG is at ? getback Babe Bee
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Post  RknRusty on Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:15 pm

getback wrote:...Fred do your plans say were the CG is at ? getback Babe Bee
Eric, it's way up front, right at the back edge of the LE stick... spar, what do you call that LE anyway... .
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Post  fredvon4 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:11 am

If you can use the plans Kim posted----- in the top right quadrant is a side view with the CG right at the back of the shaped LE but there is a NOTE

" For the experienced flyer balance model at the CG
For stunt training, the model should balance forward of the LE"
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Post  getback on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:18 am

Thanks Fred I blew it up cant read / printed it cant read , Ya'll got me wanting to get mine recovered for spring and ck. the other Kiddie for CG fudge up , Rusty it a 1/2 round stick lol! Eric
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Post  Ken Cook on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:31 am

The Kitten is far too sensitive using the kit CG. Keep your handle spacing at 2" and use a larger control horn and place the pushrod in the furthest hole away from the hinge pivot. I would highly recommend getting rid of the wheel. It's going to want to make the plane drop on release not to mention make the plane hunt up and down. These planes require immediate horsepower, the more you have, the faster and better they fly. Note that the engine on the plans is a Holland Hornet. Not exactly a slouch in the power dept for the time period. Wings of this era can be a bit hairy on takeoff until speed gets up. If your handle is too large your just asking to compound the problem as it will be like mocking a roller coaster. Personally I would disregard the CG on the print as it's no good and I would suggest moving it back to the rear 7/8". This should place it very close to the first leadout exit and it will prevent the wild ride. Ken
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Post  Theo Kleynhans on Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:41 pm

Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions.

Thanks Rusty. Happy new year to you guys too!!

Yes I had a break for a bit but now I am back.

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Post  getback on Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:39 am

Thanks Ken , I noted this stuff on my print out , and welcome back Theo good to hear from you and hope to see progress on these kittens if you can . Eric Happy New Year
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Post  fredvon4 on Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:34 pm

Ken

I am setting up to build one of my two Kittens and think the 1/16th stabilator is too light/flimsy

What say yee?....one idea..fast... is to flood it in CA...OR just cut a new stab out of 3/32
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Post  fredvon4 on Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:18 pm

While I wait on Ken or other Kitten builders....did I ever mention how MUCH I REALLY like Laser kits

punching out this old Top Flite die crushed kit has made more bad words in the last thirty min than all this year!
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Post  RknRusty on Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:49 pm

Fred, I'm not a Kitten builder, but I'd worry about tail weight with 3/32. Flooding with CA would work well. But what I would do is silkspan it with Minwax Polycrylic. I had excellent results stiffening the thin stab on my Li'l Satan and it looks nice and glassy after painting.

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Post  kevbo on Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:02 am

You are better off scratch building this than finding a NOS kit.

The kittens are the kit that convinced me that i'd never buy another top flight kit. Not only was the die cutting horrible, but the groove in the back of the leading edge was well off center, making it impossible to assemble to the front of the ribs as designed. I gave up and bought another little satan. The kid I'd gone halfsies on the kittens with saw the lil'satan, and swapped me a McCoy .35 for it. THAT was a deal! Wonder what became of him? If Ken Pauley (sp?) ever wanders past here, PM me!
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