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Post  rogermharris Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:57 pm

cut a couple trainers out at lunch time today... something to build while waiting on the rustoleum to dry

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Post  duke.johnson Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:15 pm

The fuse looks like a Beginner Ringmaster, wing tips and tail feathers look different. I need to get a laser cutter to cut ribs.
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Post  rogermharris Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:30 pm

duke.johnson wrote:The fuse looks like a Beginner Ringmaster, wing tips and tail feathers look different.  I need to get a laser cutter to cut ribs.

hopefully by mid summer i will be ready to cut some sort of 1/2A stunt plane. my favorite was the baby ringmaster.. even added ailerons to the last couple i built.

this one is based on the beginner ringmaster. a little more wing, my own shape throughout the tail and i used 1/8" thick balsa for the rudder, stabilizer and elevator instead of the 3/32" that the drawing calls for. it will also have the addition of a rubber band engine mount. want it to be a slow, strong flyer.
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Post  pkrankow Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:23 pm

Consider stretching a baby ringmaster to sky ray proportions, or at least flite streak proportions. The longer tail with appropriately longer nose should be more stable and turn better.

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Post  rogermharris Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:51 pm

pkrankow wrote:Consider stretching a baby ringmaster to sky ray proportions, or at least flite streak proportions.  The longer tail with appropriately longer nose should be more stable and turn better.

Phil

Sounds like a plan Phil. I will have to do a little searching when the time comes.
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Post  pkrankow Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:09 pm

Here's the flite streak.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=4540

The skyray is current production so it is not on outerzone.

here is a rendition of the Baby Ringmaster
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5652

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Post  batjac Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:32 pm

duke.johnson wrote:I need to get a laser cutter to cut ribs.

Me too.  Man! Think of how fast I could crank out new planes and try new ideas...  I wonder how much a hobbyist cutter would cost.

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Post  rogermharris Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:08 pm

pkrankow wrote:Here's the flite streak.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=4540

The skyray is current production so it is not on outerzone.

here is a rendition of the Baby Ringmaster
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5652

Phil

well that works!

thank you sir
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Post  rogermharris Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:14 pm

batjac wrote:
duke.johnson wrote:I need to get a laser cutter to cut ribs.

Me too.  Man! Think of how fast I could crank out new planes and try new ideas...  I wonder how much a hobbyist cutter would cost.

The Jonesing Mark

i can't wait myself....  i'm not sure how much of a laser you need for balsa. i went by the sheet i have for the machine and you have to tweak from there. i needed half as much power as i used for the 1/8" sheet. i know this because i used the same power setting and cut the 1/4" balsa just about right. plywood obviously requires a bit more power
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Post  rogermharris Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:25 am

pkrankow wrote:Here's the flite streak.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=4540

The skyray is current production so it is not on outerzone.

here is a rendition of the Baby Ringmaster
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5652

Phil
just checked you the flite streak... i built one of those way back when. it's in the pictures i posted in my first post

my favorite baby ringmaster. this one had working ailerons and my one and only blackwidow that i purchased new for it in 74 maybe...
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Post  getback Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:12 am

DAMMIT! Mark I looked in to building a laser cutter years ago now that I have a computer friend and I just spent an hour doing it again LOOK http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-cutter-start-slicing-stuff-for-under-50-dol/ and again e-bay http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=lasers&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R10.TR11.TRC1.A0.H1.Xlaser.TRS0&_nkw=laser+cutter&_sacat=0 the easy redirected Eric Shocked
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Post  rogermharris Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:53 am

here's some progress on the build. already taking notes on what to change and add for the next one.

beginner ringmaster inspired
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Post  rogermharris Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:50 pm

just about finished! even cut some wheels from 1/8" delrin

now if the weather would cooperate!!!!  supposed to be cold and windy this weekend.

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Post  TDbandit Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:31 pm

Very nice man, can't wait to hear how it flies. That design would look like it would fly well scaled up for a TD .09 as well. Smile
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Post  rogermharris Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:42 pm

TDbandit wrote:Very nice man, can't wait to hear how it flies. That design would looks like it would fly well scaled up to a TD .09 as well. Smile
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Thanks! If I ever end up with a TD .09 it would Grace a ship more worthy.  Some sort of sporty stunt plane.  Babee Ringmaster was my favorite.

Sure hope we get a break in the weather some time soon. Mid week next week is looking promising. May bee able to get out after work next week.....
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Post  pkrankow Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:56 am

That's sharp looking! What paint is that?

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Post  rogermharris Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:30 am

pkrankow wrote:That's sharp looking!  What paint is that?

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thanks phil!

the silver is Top Flite Aluminum LustreKote
and all the black is rustolium
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Post  pkrankow Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:23 am

Thanks Roger

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Post  getback Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:37 am

SWEET !!! nice wheels man I wish I had access to a laser !! Small Cox Logo
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Post  TDbandit Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:42 pm

Would love a laser setup myself those wheels look great. My wildcat is painted up in Lusterkote too on top of Monokote turned out good. Lusterkote might be a bit pricy but it's a good paint, my old bingo is painted with Lustercote and it's Saito .91S has always been on a 30% Heli diet and the paint laughs at the nitro content lol and it's been on it since the late 90's. Speaking of my Saito, Got to put new bearings in that motor now main bearing is getting kinda rough. Might do a video of the bearing change...Hmm Again, great job man Smile (Bandit)
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Post  rogermharris Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:24 pm

thanks! the next set will be tweaked a bit. they have Good-Year and rotational laser etched on them as well but should have been a little smaller or the side of the tire a bit wider. the top edge of the lettering was lost in the cut. sorry for the picture quality. iphone instead of pulling out the camera

if i do some playing i can get some contour to the wheel as well.

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Post  roddie Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:00 pm

rogermharris wrote:thanks!  the next set will be tweaked a bit. they have Good-Year and rotational laser etched on them as well but should have been a little smaller or the side of the tire a bit wider. the top edge of the lettering was lost in the cut.  sorry for the picture quality.  iphone instead of pulling out the camera

if i do some playing i can get some contour to the wheel as well.

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Love the wheels Rog!! I made some on the router.. but I can't make spokes that look that good.. or do the etching either! It would be cool on your next set to etch; Harris 1.25" x .250" or whatever size they are!
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Post  rogermharris Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:15 pm

roddie wrote:
rogermharris wrote:thanks!  the next set will be tweaked a bit. they have Good-Year and rotational laser etched on them as well but should have been a little smaller or the side of the tire a bit wider. the top edge of the lettering was lost in the cut.  sorry for the picture quality.  iphone instead of pulling out the camera

if i do some playing i can get some contour to the wheel as well.

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Love the wheels Rog!! I made some on the router.. but I can't make spokes that look that good.. or do the etching either! It would be cool on your next set to etch; Harris 1.25" x .250" or whatever size they are!

now that's a good idea! i have bits down to 1/16" on the cnn router table but it's slow going. maybee a miniature tapered or v-grove bit would allow you to carve some lettering.

the laser is pretty fast at it and no issues holding the material. it's still mesmerizing to watch it run Smoking Popcorn Affraid or WOW!
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Post  NEW222 Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:53 pm

Awesome job there. Would definitely be nice to have a laser for sure.
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:13 pm

Looks good, let us know how it flys and most of all...Enjoy the ride!
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