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Post  Davenz13 on Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:42 am

I got this lot locally for NZ$54 (US$34) which I think was a pretty good deal. The Baby Bee and the Pee Wee 20 are both still new and unused and were bought by the seller’s father. They both have the price written on their relative instructions in shillings (Bee 35/- and Pee Wee 36/-) which dates them as pre 7th July 1967 which is when New Zealand went decimal. The seller has cut the bubble pack open as he had thought about using the Bee.



When I picked the stuff up he gave me the beaten up Cox engine. It has had the backplate cut on the sides, the needle has been shortened, the prop driver has had the side cut out of it and he said he had used a dremel inside the prop driver. Why I don’t know but the result is the end of the crank has been half gnawed away. The head, although the filament works, looks as though it’s been used to bang tent pegs in. The only things salvageable are the barrel, rod and piston, which has a small groove cut around the base of the skirt. The crankcase has vice jaw marks on it but looks serviceable and will clean up I think. Why this poor engine was singled out for such treatment is hard to comprehend.

Maybe someone on the forum can tell me what years that black bubble packet was used which will help nail down the year of the Bee. Using the Cox Model engine handbook it looks like both engines have the earliest style of metal backplate and the Pee Wee seems to date from 1959 to 1967 and the Bee from late 1958 to late 1960. I made up a couple of identification sheets (020 and 049) on which I write the type of the engine components as listed in the book then look through the book until I find a match. It’s much harder when engine parts have been swapped or changed and I realise many reference books can have errors, misprints etc but with my limited (very) knowledge of Cox engines it certainly is a big help for me in trying to identify engine models or which bits don’t seem to belong.




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Re: Baby Bee and Pee Wee 020

Post  Mudhen on Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:25 am

It’s hard to tell from the picture.
The Babe Bee you have is somewhere between 1959 and 1962.
Look at the tank back.
If it does not have an intake screen: 1959
If it has a pressed-in screen (the screen does not have a punch-pressed ring around the outer diameter of the screen,): 1960
A screen with an outer, punch-pressed ring, but w/o “Made in USA” in the air channel: 1960-61
If it has “Made in USA: 1962
It can’t be any younger than 1962, (even if it does have a numbered cylinder,)
because it does not have, (or does not appear to have,) the spring starter groove on the crankcase.
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Re: Baby Bee and Pee Wee 020

Post  Davenz13 on Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:56 pm

Thanks Mud

It does not have an intake screen so 1959

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Re: Baby Bee and Pee Wee 020

Post  akjgardner on Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:57 pm

Its the same age as me but in much better shape , Good find
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