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Post  getback on Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:31 pm

If I thought he could Build a plane !!! bounce  Well I said (( I don't know)) he's been watching DAD cheers  So He want's a kit and I cant do that right now SOO best next thing , first let's let you fly something and see what you think affraid that would bee my pride and joy's ! I am thinking the PT-19 I built its really slow and then there is the Stuntman 23 with a medallion on it ? Hes 16 going on 17 all Boy ... Any Tips or just conversation .    And he loves some LZ .Eric Babe Bee  Or maybe  


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Post  NEW222 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:41 pm

That is nice to hear nowadays. Usually it is the phone or game system. I have not flown neither, but if you are unsure, whip out a Man-Win Trainer. Simple, easy, I would have to say indestructible, and heck, could be built in an evening. Not a kit, no, but something that he could build and fly. Made from coroplast. Or, there is the Osborne Platter (which I have not flown, but have only heard all good reports. Just a thought, and my .02 on him wanting to build something.

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Post  cox24711 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:33 pm

yep the xboxes are the killers
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Post  pkrankow on Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:20 am

Start with a Man-win with a strong bee on it. Then build the Stuntman23 after he is no longer crashing repeatedly.

The man-win can take being driven into dirt with a rubber ducky prop on it, the stuntman...not so much.

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Post  duke.johnson on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:34 am

I agree, my boys (now 16 and 18) and I learned on a Man Win. If he crashes and breaks the kit plane on the first launch, he might loss interest.  The Man Win can just be brshed off and thrown in the air again. But, You should start building the next plane now, then he can get the fun of building at the same time as learning to fly.  Way to go!  Now set the hook!n I have a Fire Baby kit one of our local club guys made, and you can have it if you want it for your son to build. It's like this one.

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Post  getback on Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:23 am

Duke that would be GREAT , as I really don't have 30.00 to put out on one kit right now and usually just bash some paper plan into a plane and fly it, ,, I am going in town (taking my Dad a few places ) and plan on heisting a couple signs lol! I had plenty of those things a few years ago , and they do make good target practice lol!  PM sent and Thanks Friend , Eric and Justin Very Happy  ( Man-win it is ) Thanks New222 and Phil ! I Love This Forum!


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Post  rogermharris on Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:55 am

eric... if you need any sort of kit just ask. i have a decent amount of balsa laying around Thumbs Up
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Post  getback on Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:58 am

Thanks Roger , I was afraid we had burnt you out from all the laser cut request . There is a big demand for kits cut cheap and you fit the bill as you are a good person and sometimes people can take advantage without even realizing it and that can bee sad if not recognized. Thank You for all you have done for me and getting the Baby Ringmaster Bipe project in the air , also all the incredible work you did with the Scout Kit , that unfortunately I have yet to start but will make something for the winter months to help past the time .Eric Leaves
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Post  rogermharris on Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:52 am

I'm good. Thanks for the kind words. Work has been busy and much going on. I have not had any time for planes since mid July. Hope to get a couple back running and get out some before it gets too cold.

Like I said. If you need something let me know. I will make the time.
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Post  getback on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:09 am

Ok I will , right no I do have one off those election signs but son wasn't able to come home this weekend and I am going to let him and me build it together so he don't freak out and just look at it lol! I am doing to try and get the engine mount cut and the stuff together so when he does get here it will move along pretty fast . getback Very Happy
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Post  roddie on Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:37 am

NEW222 wrote:That is nice to hear nowadays.  Usually it is the phone or game system.  I have not flown neither, but if you are unsure, whip out a Man-Win Trainer.  Simple, easy, I would have to say indestructible, and heck, could be built in an evening.  Not a kit, no, but something that he could build and fly.  Made from coroplast.

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Thanks "New".. I had seen posts here about this model.. but hadn't read much about it's construction details. Even "I" might be able to build one in an evening.. Laughing I'd like to try joining the engine mount plates together using two short pop-rivets.. rather than the machine screws/nuts. The wing spar-rod would need to be installed beforehand.. then the rivets would really clamp it in place. Installed from the top (naturally).. the pop-rivet heads are practically flush with the top plate. Less chance of the bellcrank getting hung-up. Two Cents

Eric, I hope you're able to get your son involved soon. The fact that he's interested is great! It will be a good thing for both of you!
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Post  NEW222 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:47 pm

The most of the construction and the longest part was cutting it out. Heck, even I built 2 in an evening, and I am a SLOW builder. Shocked Also, mine flew pretty well in my opinion, and was a definite hoot to fly, and it took many 'hard landings' this past year with no damage other than the engine mount being bent a bit, so I just grabbed the engine and bent it back up into place.

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Post  roddie on Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:27 pm

NEW222 wrote:The most of the construction and the longest part was cutting it out.  Heck, even I built 2 in an evening, and I am a SLOW builder. Shocked  Also, mine flew pretty well in my opinion, and was a definite hoot to fly, and it took many 'hard landings' this past year with no damage other than the engine mount being bent a bit, so I just grabbed the engine and bent it back up into place.


Did you use a certain type of adhesive for any coroplast to coroplast bonds? The only place I can see this being required is if you used the mentioned coroplast lead-out guide strip.
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Post  NEW222 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:05 pm

Let me go take a look. I will post back in a couple of minutes.
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Post  NEW222 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:21 pm

Here are a couple of pictures of the two of them. The only gluing was the leadout guides. They were first 'flashed', then glued using Dollarama 5 Minute epoxy. By 'flashing', in case you were unaware is to simply pass a flame over the area quickly to clean from any oxidents/impurities on the plastic. You can also use chemical, but this is what I prefer, and what I use in the industry to do any of my plastic repair. I use a micro torch waved back and forth a couple of times quickly, but you can use a lighter or heat gun as well. You can kind of see the plastic getting a bit shiny when doing this, but on white it is a tad harder to tell. But a quick pass is all that is required. Plus after gluing down with a thin layer of epoxy, I clamp it for a bit also. If you have any further questions, please ask.





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Post  pkrankow on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:11 pm

I use hot melt glue to create internal reinforcements for screw holes. I also use hot melt glue as wing tip weight and for holding the spar in place. With dual temp glue the hotter setting will penetrate the plastic while the cooler setting will not. After gluing I drill through the glue.

Downside is that hot melt is heavy, so if you are doing anything other than bashing these with new pilots the results will be less than lighter, less strong methods.

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Post  roddie on Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:53 am

Thanks for the tips guys.. I appreciate it.
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Post  getback on Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:17 am

What more could you ask for , look at those smiles     Maybe this will be sign nub. 2 lol!
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Post  getback on Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:17 am

Got the engine mount AND 1/8" hard wood strip cut for reinforcement in the wing made over the weekend , and was checking the sign for plane and its only 18" the way the channels run so it will have to be sized down or find another sign and I haven't seen one yet that will fit the description , Do you think that the 5" smaller difference will be OK ? Eric Airplane
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Post  NEW222 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:49 pm

I cannot honestly say, but mine does move well with approximately 35 foot lines and a Babe Bee. Your call, but I do believe that it would be a quick little thing in my opinion. But, heck why not try, they take bad landings very well, so I hear.........
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Post  getback on Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:14 am

The kit Duke sent my son arrived yesterday Fire Baby II also full size plans heck I am thinking of coping this for me one too , anyway he was very excited when I gave him the box and he got it opened and seen what had came for him (I haven't told him ahead of time )      The man win is still in progress , I have just had too much other important things to take care of to get it finished , I ended up cutting the sign to make the right length W/S and screwed up making the tail section soo I will have to go with Duct tape for that , at least we are headed in the right direction    My son says Thank You Very much Mister Duke ! getback This Site Rocks!
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Post  NEW222 on Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:39 am

Looks like it is coming along nicely. The mess up on the tail is no big deal. These things are very forgiving in nature while building. Shape is not all that important. Just make sure you have enough of a gap so it can travel up and down well. Also, you and your son will enjoy the Fire Baby 2. Awesome little plane and quick build.
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Post  getback on Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:51 pm

All Righty then this baby thing is well done and hope IIIIII don't have to build another Rudolph It was more trouble than I thought it would have been with the mounts being fabricated by a Clydesdale , the second one at least was usable and since I messed up cutting the only sign I had well I don't think my son would have made it us both being hot headed some time together .....Santa   Any way here is one of his presents from dear old Dad (and I sure hope it gets him trained)          Merry Merry merry ; I want tell you what just happen while showering / posting but it an;t good some thing is going to fly tonite  Thumbs Down Devil Devil Eric sorrrrry but I already did the fun part
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