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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:17 pm

I would like to participate in the "Fly it if you got it day" but I don't have a PT-19.

Does anyoine have an old clapped out one for sale or loan?

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Post  NEW222 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:57 pm

I would like to help you out, but I too do not have one. I do however have the plans to make a Coroplast version that looks pretty decent though, should you want to build one.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:22 pm

New,

Thanks for the kind offer, kinda hoping for a real one though. I flew Kims QZ a while back and found it fun enough to re-create the experience.

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Post  Jason_WI on Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:05 pm

Check out how many this guy has NIB. Auction is for one.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=172069511586&globalID=EBAY-US
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Post  Kim on Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:10 am

Cribbs74 wrote:New,

Thanks for the kind offer, kinda hoping for a real one though. I flew Kims QZ a while back and found it fun enough to re-create the experience.

Ron

Dude! Got you covered! I'll get a PM on the way as soon as the coffee starts working!
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Post  rsv1cox on Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:07 am

You would be a real hit with this one Ron.  Let me know if you want it, gratis.  I have your address around here somewhere.





I actually patched it up to flyable condition.


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Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:24 pm

PM sent Bob.
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Post  fredvon4 on Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:50 pm

Careful what you ask for Ron...before you know it you will have more plastic crap than you need lol!

Nobody get me wrong, I enjoyed the frustration of the Cox RTF planes like most of us grew up on but as soon as I moved to balsa....well I MOVED on to balsa

As I see the cost of so much of this stuff I am glad I resist the temptation on some of it...mostly... Ha.... I still have more Cox .049s than I will ever need


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Post  batjac on Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:55 pm

Jason_WI wrote:Check out how many this guy has NIB. Auction is for one.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=172069511586&globalID=EBAY-US

Wow! A dozen new in box PT-19s. Guy's sitting on a retirement goldmine...

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Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:48 pm

fredvon4 wrote:Careful what you ask for Ron...before you know it you will have more plastic crap than you need   lol!

Nobody get me wrong, I enjoyed the frustration of the Cox RTF planes like most of us grew up on but as soon as I moved to balsa....well I MOVED on to balsa

As I see the cost of so much of this stuff I am glad I resist the temptation on some of it...mostly... Ha.... I still have more Cox .049s than I will ever need


OK Ok Fred is just bored and cluttering the CEF site with useless and mostly BS postings

Fred, I don't plan on going down the plastic road, balsa is my material of choice. I just wanted one so I could show my support.

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Post  fredvon4 on Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:20 pm

OH I get it Ron.... I too...I have started a few times to gather the crud stuff needed for the coroplast PT but can't get enthused with that materiel so I found a few good photos to scratch out a passable Balsa PT 19

I know the fly a thon is intended for the Cox RTF but as I fly around with a grin I will be thinking of my fellow bashers desperately begging the bugger to just climb and not need new rubber bands...grin
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Post  roddie on Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:14 pm

Hey Ron, I saw a TV ad recently for ultrasonic light-activated glue that really looked amazing. Apparently there's many brands. It might be worth trying on Bob's broken wing..

Here's a vid that's pretty convincing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE2B1ET-p1Q

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Post  batjac on Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:55 pm

roddie wrote:Hey Ron, I saw a TV ad recently for ultrasonic light-activated glue that really looked amazing. Apparently there's many brands. It might be worth trying on Bob's broken wing..

Here's a vid that's pretty convincing..

Over on Stunthanger not too long ago there were guys talking about that light activated glue. They seemed suitably impressed. Whether you use that glue or some other glue, I'd say it'd be a good idea to run a strip of reinforcing tape from one wingtip to the other across the bottom of the wing.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:02 pm

I think Bob already said it was airworthy. So I am assuming the wing is in one piece again. If it needs help I'll check that stuff out. Thanks guys.

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Post  rsv1cox on Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:58 am

Cribbs74 wrote:I think Bob already said it was airworthy. So I am assuming the wing is in one piece again. If it needs help I'll check that stuff out. Thanks guys.

Ron

It's in one piece Ron, but not nicely done, so I'm sending along my "good" PT-19 which is also a rescue but much more flyable.  You will have to re-string and rubber band it.  I'm including it so at least you will have something respectable to fly. Keep the clapped out 19 but send me back the other one in the same box, only box I had that would fit.







I will pack them carefully and get them in the mail this week.

A friend has one of those plastic "welders", I bet it would work on that broken wing.  Just remove my patches, weld the seams and weld in a spar of sorts.  I had thought of buying a new wing, they go for around $34 about twice what I paid for the whole plane.  

Good luck, I just hope that you don't wind up parallel to the ground with it as I did.  Smile  See my pictures in Kim's thread.
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Post  roddie on Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:07 pm

rsv1cox wrote: Keep the clapped out 19 but send me back the other one in the same box, only box I had that would fit.





Gee.. they're all so different in little ways.. Noticing on your blue/yellow model; the pilots look a lot better sitting in an open cockpit.. and the windscreens look nice too. Mine is a later model.. Pilot-heads with posts and fuse molded with small square holes to accept them. It would be funny to convert them to bobble-heads! My stab has a molded-centered horn. I don't see one on yours.. but I see a yellow piece in the tail of the fuse. Does that actuate the stab. somehow? It's hard to tell from your photo but is your engine-pod pitch-adjustable.. for beginner/expert? Mine has that and I think it's a nice feature. It is after all.. a trainer.  

Somebody mentioned shrink or Saran-wrapping the bottom of the wing.. to see how it would affect the flight. I'll bet it would be favorable. The PIA would be having to do it every flying session. I have some double-sided tape. I wonder if taping the perimeter-bottom of the wing would suffice for tacking low-heat covering to.. then shrinking with a hair-dryer? Make a slightly over-size wing template for cutting a one-piece heat-shrink bottom-skin.. lay the pre-taped wing down on top of it and roll left/right to adhere the film. Turn the wing upside-down and go around the entire perimeter; sealing the tape with the film, using a curved tool that will define an edge. Oh I'm on a roll now.. Heat taught and check for warps!

My tank is round and translucent-white. (I've had trouble with mine popping off.. including one on a replacement fuse..) I had an idea to bypass the tank.. and mount a tube for holding one of those long-shaped balloons I made. The stock landing gear design on mine is simple to reproduce with 1/16" music-wire. I wanted larger solid wheels for mine.. and went with Sig 1.375" plastic wheels.. and added nearly 1.0" to the strut(s) length. The stock gear's axles on mine are crimped Shocked at the ends.. not the best for "free-wheeling". My modified gear uses tiny precision brass washers on the axles.. and spring-collar retainers. I enjoy R.O.G.'s.. especially with a small model. It's just more realistic to me.
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Post  rsv1cox on Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:29 pm

These two are quite different roddie.  I think the white one is an early model, blue/yellow model later.  

There are windshields on the later PT-19, clear plastic and not molded in like the first model.  Gas tanks as you mentioned are different too.  Both have adjustable engine pitches.  











The tail sections on both were broken, what you see is my fix.

I would think that the two Marks would have all the information regarding these.  

Ron is confident that he can repair that wing so I won't be sending the other PT-19 along.  Ron is sending me an Enya engine in trade, much appreciated but not necessary.  Another Enya!!!! yea.....

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Post  batjac on Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:25 pm

The white PT-19 comes from around 1981. That's when I figure mine was made from looking at the Cox product catalog that came with the model. The blue and yellow is a much earlier plane, but I don't know the years of manufacture.

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Post  WingingIt74 on Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:47 pm

rsv1cox wrote:You would be a real hit with this one Ron.  Let me know if you want it, gratis.  I have your address around here somewhere.





I actually patched it up to flyable condition.


Bob

Oh man, you've been holding out.... I'd love to find one of those. That was my first CL that I never got the chance to fly when I was a kid.

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