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Post  dht7788 on Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:43 pm

Saw this on Craigs list. Close to me but way too much money!!!!
http://rochester.craigslist.org/clt/5363880541.html
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1950'S Mercedes Race Car

Post  Marleysky on Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:17 pm

There are a couple out there. One looks to be NIB on FleaBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Thimbledrome-Gas-W-196-Mercedes-Benz-Red-GP-Racer-Display-Box-Accs-1961/362100174708?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649


one I found ON CL, What's it worth with out a box? ?

 
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:50 pm

The Holy grail. At least for me anyway. Saw one for the first time as a kid on "Leave it to Beaver" yeah it was a re-run... Even in black and white it looked amazing.

I'll never own one, although, I got a hold of a nice Baja Bug so maybe it's possible.
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Bill steklenski on Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:55 pm

I remember going to a MECA collecto back around 2005 and a guy had three of these cars with the box for 300$ each. I should have bought a few.
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Marleysky on Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:21 pm






Got it in the mail today! It IS going to be a shelf queen. Looks good as is. Needs a set of exhaust pipes and hood hinge holes.
I did not buy the tractor, are those collectible too?
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Cox W196 Benz Car

Post  Bill steklenski on Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:50 pm

This is Really a cool Car! I Guess it is actually the first plastic cox Car made Before the Flagship Models of the Dune buggy and Baja bug. I would like to see one run on the tether line. I had one years back and I cut my right hand finger from the Knock Off hub cap spinner. Here he comes Speed Racer!!!
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  getback on Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:48 pm

Beer Cheers  Thats NICE!!! you the man Rene sunny   Shelf Queen she is !! sunny
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  dckrsn on Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:07 pm

I'm with Eric on this one, nice score!
I have a complete Benz engine, and that's gotta
be the heaviest flywheel Cox ever produced.
Thanks for the photos.
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  crankbndr on Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:29 am

Nice one!! I have been after one for a while. It is a very complex model, pull steering wheel to raise hood. The engine and trans is complex, would like to see pics of these.
Whats wrong with the hood? I see parts for these on eBay once in a while. There is a little driver the sits in the seat also.
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  roddie on Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:00 am

Beautiful model Rene! I saved several photos that CEF member "Hinge-man" posted when he rebuilt/restored his.

I believe that this is the part you need for the bonnet..





exhaust-pipe..



Check out this ultra-cool rear-diff....

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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Marleysky on Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:06 am

I asked the PO if he had the driver and exhaust pipes. He said he doesn't recall ever having them...or the Box. It looks to never have been fueled as it's really clean inside and the piston is rusted in place ( now soaking in PB blaster) and that IS a dang heavy counterweight on the flywheel fan. Thanks for saving those pictures Roddie, I didn't want to disassemble the rear end, as it turns and spins quite easily. The hood "hinge" was packed in the front seat. I'm only missing two, the half round part of the hinge mount on the bonnet. In the pic the right side is complete, the left side is missing both "holes"
Yeah, she's a sweet and almost complete!  Check off item on bucket list x


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Post  crankbndr on Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:21 am

Would like to find the paperwork for that car also. This was part of the box.


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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  crankbndr on Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:16 pm

Beavers Birthday, the model shows at 12 min. they did something with the engine and no hood


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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:30 pm

I wonder why the Beav's car has a vertical mounted engine?
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  dckrsn on Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:58 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:I wonder why the Beav's car has a vertical mounted engine?
I was thinking the same, Ron. Maybe losing the hood and going vertical with the cylinder
was supposed to make it recognisable as a fuel powered car. Very popular at the time, as
we all know. I wonder if Cox had a PR hand in it, as Hollywood was "just up the street".
Gee Wally, ten bucks won't buy a glow head today.
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  crankbndr on Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:35 am

Maybe Cox wanted the engine to be seen, they sure didn't show any other way to ID who made the car.



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Post  crankbndr on Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:24 am

I think the Bev made a wise purchase, brings to mind Junes famous line "Ward you were a little tough on the Beaver last night!!"
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  crankbndr on Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:22 pm

This topic drove me over the edge!! I found a Cox Mercedes  in parts, all new. I hope it goes together easier than a Stuka. Looking for the box now.





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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Marleysky on Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:50 pm

I glad to see a CEF member get that "parts" car, if it was the one on e bay just recently. I requested a complete inventory list and only got a a few extra photos. But, it did look complete.
Edit: I see your pics, yup that's one! Yes, it'll go together much, much easier than the Stuka!
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Post  crankbndr on Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:41 am

The body is pretty disappointing, covered in scratches. It must have been stored in a tool box for 56 years, a lot of polishing to be done. It is much larger than most Cox cars.






The engine is frozen, I need to take it apart to install the muffler. It will take a lot of care to put no tool marks on it.

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Post  crankbndr on Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:16 am

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Post  getback on Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:40 am

NICE Score crank !! I am sure it had a pretty price to go with it LOL ! I like the tank with the stunt vent on that bee wish you could get those ?!?!? That's one i have not seen , i am sure you will get it looking beautiful as always This Site Rocks! Small Cox Logo Babe Bee .049 Small Cox Logo
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Re: 1961 cox mercedes benz racer

Post  Mudhen on Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:59 am

Just some notes:
1. The muffler you have pictured with the engine is not correct for W-196. The Mercedes muffler was the first of its kind and is the design from which the patent was issued.
It is very unique and is sole to the Mercedes. If you don’t have it, wait to find a crummy car that can be bought at a decent price on ebay. At least it’ll have the right part.

2. I’ve restored nearly 300 Cox cars/planes and though I can’t prove it, I strongly suspect that polystyrene shrinks over time.
Your body halves are new and have never been tapped. Find an original Mercedes body screw that is disposable; not the new hardware you have, but one that has good threads.
Carefully, slowly, pre-tap the screw holes before assembling the car. Don’t just drive the screw in place. Thread it for a 1/4 to 1/2 turn, then back it out. Thread again for a turn or two then back it out. Use this pattern until the screw can easily be threaded to the bottom with little or no force. It will save loads of headaches. Also when you’re ready to assemble, place a dollop of Vaseline on the screw before threading it into the car. Speaking of Vaseline; when you polish the axles, they have a tendency to rust quite easily. Once they’re polished, wipe some Vaseline over the axles, this’ll prevent rust from forming and keep them looking bright.

3. The adhesive on the stickers is either dried completely, or nearly so and it won’t hold the stickers in place. Use acetone on a Q-tip and patiently/carefully remove all the old adhesive. When you’re ready to apply the stickers and after the body has been polished, clean the area of the body using rubbing alcohol. Then use Elmer’s Multi-Purpose Spray Adhesive to hold the stickers in place. It goes on thin and works quite well. Further, the roundels will tend to pull away because of the curve of the body. Cut a 3x5 note card to cover the sticker entirely. Once the sticker is applied, tape the 3x5 card over the sticker, forcing it in place. Allow the glue to dry at room temperature for a week or two before removing the card. Lastly, apply the stickers before assembling the car.
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Post  crankbndr on Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:42 am

Thank you for the great tips and guidance, I will heed all of them. I was hoping to just assemble the model, now I have another project!! lol!
Just a note, the muffler part # is 6086, same part# in the model paperwork. Can you tell me the differences in mufflers?
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Post  Mudhen on Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:05 pm

I may be looking at the wrong picture. The muffler I was referring to was the one new in the package pictured with the new engine. If that's the muffler then I think it is wrong. From the picture, it looks as if it has six angle cuts at its base. The W-196 muffler was round with two flats machined into its base. The part numbers may be similar because the one you have may have been made after the W-196 was discontinued. Cox just reused the number. Also when you attach the muffler to the engine, be very careful not to "wrench" the cylinder in place. Doing so will cause the muffler to warp. (Later versions of mufflers had a reinforcement stanchion.) Since it's a display only, just use the minimum torque to hold it in place. The Mercedes were fun to restore, but time consuming and very stressful. (all restorations have inherent risk.) It usually took some 30 - 40 hours to get it right. You have all you need to make a "fresh from the factory" resto. Take your time. Be patient.
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