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Post  rsv1cox on Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:14 am

Dumas (and others) Scout, thanks for the ID guys.



Poorly packed and slightly squished.  More wing damage, tail broken off. In jest I had mentioned to the seller to pack it well, I "didn't want it scratched."  Smile



That's the fuel tube guys.  Makes for a nice ceiling hanger.



Enya .06 looks pretty fine, came with the optional radial mount.  Not the best mounting structure though. Sad



A little reconstruction to do.  Ought to have it in the air this afternoon.  Smile

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Post  getback on Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:49 am

GOSH I didn't think I looked that bad in the pic you showed before ,,, you rebuild that man you got it worse than I thought !?!? is that like a 3-4 oz. tank / the Enya may be the best of that deal . But like I said when your ready and need something for that Scout let me know . I am sorry to see that it came in that messed up Sad   just a pic !!   I have the PDF file and kit as I had said Bob , Eric Cold
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Post  rsv1cox on Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:52 pm

Thanks Eric,  I darkened it up a bit and printed it out.  Gives me two perspectives.

The focus of the buy was the Enya .06.  Looks like a one and done crash engine.  It was dusty and stuck solid but cleaned up well.  Came with a Thimble Drome prop.  Bonus is the vintage Enya glow plug and early IMI import. 







I glued up some of the fuselage this morning.  Let the healing begin.  Smile

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Post  Cribbs74 on Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:22 pm

That .06 cleaned up really well Bob, is the red piece just a radial mount?

I hope you can make the scout into something. Kim is a big fan of those. I need to finish mine. The leadouts were snagged in my bench grinder and I lost momentum after that happened.

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Post  rsv1cox on Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:42 am

Thanks, yes just a mount Ron. These are reed valve engines with no built in tank. I never realized these Scouts were so popular, guess i'm in good company.





I'm debating whether to keep the Enya or remove the tank and mount a Cox Babe Bee or Black Widow up front. But, I'm leaning toward keeping it as is.



I cleaned up the turtle deck and installed an aft former that the original builder forgot and started on reconstructing the smashed tail section. I intend to make a cutout for a "real" cockpit instead of the silhouette presently there. I have a roll of red monocote to do the wings and a half can of red lustrkote for the fuselage, so red with black trim it is again.
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Post  getback on Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:13 am

Cribbs74 wrote:That .06 cleaned up really well Bob, is the red piece just a radial mount?

I hope you can make the scout into something. Kim is a big fan of those. I need to finish mine. The leadouts were snagged in my bench grinder and I lost momentum after that happened.

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Sorry to hear that Ron but I have to know how the heck did you manage that ? I didn't know that you had got a kit from Roger also , glad you did he put a lot of work into getting it right from what Kim had sent me . getback Very Happy
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Post  getback on Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:20 am

Bob, your not wasting no time on that Very Happy is the .06 about the same power as .049 ? / less/more That will look good red with some black trim. yes my printer needs its 500 page tune up had to redo some pages the other day that didn't even have blk. lines. If you want the Pdf files PM me your mail address and I will zip,em to you Thumbs Up Eric Popcorn
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Post  rsv1cox on Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:15 am

getback wrote:
Cribbs74 wrote:That .06 cleaned up really well Bob, is the red piece just a radial mount?

I hope you can make the scout into something. Kim is a big fan of those. I need to finish mine. The leadouts were snagged in my bench grinder and I lost momentum after that happened.

Ron
 Sorry to hear that Ron but I have to know how the heck did you manage that ? I didn't know that you had got a kit from Roger also , glad you did he put a lot of work into getting it right from what Kim had sent me . getback Very Happy

I meant to ask Ron about that too. Maybe they just got caught up, but I remember once while cleaning the outer speedometer cable on my MGB using the wire wheel on my bench grinder it got caught and wrapped it several times around the brush before i got it shut down. Needed a new one after that. Sad

I'm not sure what the specs are on a Cox BW but I would think the Enya .06 would be slightly more powerful. The .06 is rated at 0.10 hp at around 17K rpm. I beleive the BW turns 20K or better?

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Post  cox24711 on Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:32 pm

Sorry this is if topic but you have got a MGB! Very Happy bounce
I have to ask is it v8? or straight 4 or 6? engine swap?
is it a mgb gt? or just an mgb?
what year?

ps IM MAD ABOUT CLASSIC CARS !!! lol!
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Post  cox24711 on Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:36 pm

rsv1cox wrote:
I'm debating whether to keep the Enya or remove the tank and mount a Cox Babe Bee or Black Widow up front. But, I'm leaning toward keeping it as is.  

Give it a tee dee it will haul! Very Happy take the enya out (it looks superb) we don't want that breaking Very Happy
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Post  rsv1cox on Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:31 pm

cox24711 wrote:Sorry this is if topic but you have got a MGB!  Very Happy   bounce
I have to ask is it v8? or straight 4 or 6? engine swap?
is it a mgb gt? or just an mgb?
what year?

ps IM MAD ABOUT CLASSIC CARS !!! lol!

Had a couple Greg both drop heads along with a Midget all four cylinders



But this was my favorite.



All departed now, but currently looking at these.



Greg, I have a feeling that your going to have a very interesting life.

Bob





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Post  KariFS on Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:11 am

Bob, I saw a picture of your black one sitting on a trailer in another thread, meant to ask, is / was that a genuine Limited Edition?

I used to have a '73 MGB, much like the '74 in the middle one in your fleet. Mine was originally green but had been painted black by a PO. Loved that car,  but had to sell it because of lack of space to fix it properly and money was tight too.

Is the red one a TC? I was in the US for a few weeks in a youth exchange program in 1989, I was 17 then and one of the hosts had a 1952 TD in his garage. It was equipped with the smaller steel wheels. Hadn't run in years but we made some gaskets out of cardboard for the leaky carbs, got another battery and got it to run. No brakes though except in maybe one rear wheel. I drove it back and forth the farm road and loved it Smile The guy said that I'll get it when he dies... Not sure if I'm really on his will or not Huh...

Oh Yeah, to stay on the topic, that's a nice looking Enya! As for the plane... Well, looks bad now, but since you got the Aircrate done the way you did, this shouldn't be a problem. I'd go ahead and build a completely new wing for it, maybe utilizing some of the ribs.
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Post  rsv1cox on Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:59 am

No problem Kari, Planes, trains, and automobiles that's my life.

The TC was a 1947 bought as a bunch of parts. I had the bucket, bonnet, and fenders professionally painted by guys that did Bentleys, Mercedes, and high end sports cars. Perhaps a come-down for them but they did a wonderful job. Then My son and I assembled it.

You recognized the Citron (color) MGB as a '74, good eye. Those bumperettes are a dead give-away. Had them on the rear too.



I took them all off and saved about 50 pounds of dead weight. If a car ever loved me it was that one. I bought it as a wreck ($860 on ebay) did a lot of work on it and got it running like a clock. Everything that I did on that car cooperated like no other. It was like letting a best friend go when I sold it.

The MGB-LE was an all original 1980 with only 27K miles. Perhaps the best running MG that I have ever owned.

I didn't like the Midget, to small but a very nice looking car.



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Post  rsv1cox on Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:20 pm

Where I am right now.



The wing was not made in one piece but rather two pieces and grafted on.  Not good, I think it was kitted as a single wing?



Perhaps the original builder modified it because of the fuel tank.  But the fuselage sides are solid with no cutouts for the wing.  





I decided to keep as much of the original wing as possible.



I reinforced the weak spots and pinned the leading edge internally with toothpicks.



I had thought about using monokote for the wings but will use silkspan instead.





Lot’s of busy work left to do.
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Post  pkrankow on Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:43 pm

Consider sawing into those joints lengthwise on the spars and inserting a "biscuit" of some 1/16 plywood. Ringmasters were done that way for packaging reasons and the joint was considered stronger than the test of the LE.

There are a number of designs that are built with the spars only passing through the fuselage. (no I don't have a list) The designs are considered to have a weak point at the fuselage/wing joint because of the small bearing area. New versions of these models are built wing and fuselage, then joined. Short of a full rebuild with the redesign I don't know how to fix this.

In both cases as long as you are not planning on crashing, then it should be fine the way you are going.

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Post  pkrankow on Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:47 pm

The Little Tomahawk was done sorta similar
http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6841
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Post  Ken Cook on Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:10 pm

Lil Tomahawk is the best flying 1/2A stunter I own. I love it . Mine is 34 yrs old still going on
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Post  pkrankow on Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:38 pm

Ken Cook wrote:Lil Tomahawk is the best flying 1/2A stunter I own. I love it . Mine is 34 yrs old still going on

I'll keep this in mind. I could use another little stunter for short strings.

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Post  rsv1cox on Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:43 pm

I don't think this is going to be much of a flyer guys, to much epoxy and fixes and the previous builder built a twist into the rear 1/3rd of the fuselage. My fun is just putting it back together and seeing if it will fly. Smile

There isn't enough room to put a biscuit into the leading edge, a great fix in carpentery. Those toothpicks and gussets make the wing to fuselage joint pretty strong. We will see if the wings come off in flight with that Enya sitting up front. Smile

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Post  stuntflyr on Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:25 pm

Bob,
I'm going to recover my ripped tissue Lil Jumpin Bean with PolySpan, stuff is awesome and strong as can be. Perfect for 1/2A's. If it works as well as I hope I'll do my Sizzlin' Liz and Zipper with it too.
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Post  cox24711 on Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:51 am

bob you are doing a great job on that little sucker! lol!
Chris is that yours!^
my eyes have popped out of my sockets Shocked because of the amount of mgs of on this thread! lol! I Love This Forum!
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Post  rsv1cox on Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:52 am

Thanks Greg, It's a labor of love.... Smile

Yes,  Nice early B Chris, I love the color and vintage California plate.  Now that I'm MGB-less I might have to turn in my MG Experience membership.  NOT, I still support the forum.  But I may go over to the dark side.  I have been looking at a lot of Miata's lately.  I gave up on the Hybrid Honda CR-Z.

If anyone has pictures of their Scouts, old, new, or indifferent I would love to see them.  I'm really debating on how to cover the wings.  Monokote or silk span.  I haven't been able to find poly span but I have a lot of left over silk span that I would like to use up.  But the last time I used it on my Nieuport 28 it checked after only a few months,  But that was really old silk that came with the kit.

I have an OS 20 four stroke coming for the "White Knight".  Smile

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Post  rsv1cox on Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:42 pm

Ready for paint.



Two coats of sanding sealer already applied then two coats of primer followed by a couple of coats of really red, some trim and I'm done.

That thing out front is the ugly stick that I hit it with, also acts as a hand hold whenI spray it.  Kim calls it "A plane on a stick."

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Post  getback on Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:52 pm

Damn that was too quick there ..   let me see ...   from Kim O you mean finished that's in a thread ... Here schroll down a little ,,/. https://www.coxengineforum.com/t5088-next-up-veco-dumas-scout?highlight=scout getback Babe Bee
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Post  rsv1cox on Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:15 pm

Thanks for that link Eric. A walk back in time. So what's the end story? Did those planes ever see air?

Now I understand how that wing fits into the fuselage. Just slide the completed wing up into the fuselage and secure with the bottom block. Neat.

I hit it with a couple coats of primer this morning. I will let it chill for 24 hours then add color.

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