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Post  steve thornton on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:06 am

I have a Tee Dee 15 and I want to build a really good plane to mount it on. I have a clean slate to start with i.e. maybe a profile, maybe a built up fuse, foam wing, maybe built up...don't care either way just so it matches really good with the TD 15.  You guys have some great ideas, so let's hear 'em.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:46 pm

CL or RC?
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Post  batjac on Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:41 pm

Do you want a kit or a scratch built? Do you want modern or classic? Do you want scale or utility? Do you want docile, sport, or aggressive handling? Do you want quick building or leisurely building? Need a little more to go on to narrow it down.

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Post  steve thornton on Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:37 pm

batjac wrote:Do you want a kit or a scratch built?  Do you want modern or classic?  Do you want scale or utility?  Do you want docile, sport, or aggressive handling?  Do you want quick building or leisurely building?  Need a little more to go on to narrow it down.

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Good question Mark. I only fly CL stunt, and I am a novice, but I will retire soon and will be flying a lot. i have no experience with the TD15. I have built many 1/2A, 15, 19, 35 and 40 size "traditional" kits, Flite Streaks, Magicians, Ringmasters, Twisters, foam wing and built up wings. So my real question is "what laser cut CL kit would be the best fit for Sport/Beginner contest plane for the TD 15. I love the old style Veco planes, Squaw, Chief, and have a Warrior that I recently acquired, but most of the these are for "19-35" size motors. I am a huge fan of Walt Umland's kits and have built one of his Magician kits.
The more I type here, the more vague and abstract it seems to get, so if you guys have any suggestion for a good CL stunt plane that would perform the pattern well with a TD 15, let 'er rip!
Thanks again,
Steve
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Post  gcb on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:22 pm

For a profile perhaps a profile Peacemaker. For built-up perhaps a Junior Nobler (both by George Aldrich).
For the VECO kits, perhaps a Papoose. You need to look at the plans for these because they went through several redesigns and, IMO, they eventually made them ugly.

I do not know who is currently making kits for any of these.

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Post  steve thornton on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:45 pm

[quote="gcb"]For a profile perhaps a profile Peacemaker. For built-up perhaps a Junior Nobler (both by George Aldrich).
For the VECO kits, perhaps a Papoose. You need to look at the plans for these because they went through several redesigns and, IMO, they eventually made them ugly.

I do not know who is currently making kits for any of these.

George[/quote
Thanks George,
I was lucky to find an original Veco Red Skin NIB last year and what a beaut. The Warrior kit I recently acquired was cut by Henry Engineering our of CA, and you are right on. There are several iterations of the Warrior and all the Veco/Dumas designs. A Papoose would be hard to find and pricey I think, but I do love the design...guess it's my age showing. I built a Jr. Nobler when I was a kid, and really am not interested in that model. I wish there were Jr. models for the Oriental or Smoothie.
What is your opinion of the performance of the TD15 compared to a Fox 19, Enya 15SS, or that class of motors.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:35 pm

The Enya .15SS will blow the doors off the TD. The Fox .19 isn't even in the same realm.

Have you gone to the Brodak website? Plenty of Junior kits to choose from. They have beginner to full contest ships.
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Post  getback on Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:43 pm

I can't give any good advice but I do have this kit (not built) and the price is right Plus there are others that are .15-.25 engine size.. But as Ron said if the power is down from a OS say then this kit is .09-.15 , witch would bee lighter. http://brodak.com/jr-lightning-streak-kit.html others.. http://brodak.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=3&q=lighting+streak&x=0&y=0 United States Eric
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Post  steve thornton on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:39 pm

Thanks for the input guys! This morning I walked into my shop and saw a blinding flash of genius! Actually It was just my Acromaster hanging on the wall with it's nice and boring Fox 15. I realized I could learn a lot by replacing the Fox with the TD. If it does well, and I'd bet it'll be a perfect fit, I'll know something about a Cox TD 15. I'll post some photos & give you a report as soon as I get to fly it.
Thanks again for the wisdom & experience,
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Post  PeterJGregory on Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:23 pm

Any updates? We're curious to outcomes. We are having some nice, cool weather up here in the Hudson Valley of NY. I got out 3 of the last 5 days and got a flight in with a second hand Ringmaster Jr. It was unflown when I got it, been flying it with Medallion .09 and TD .09, but thinking about putting the Medallion and then TD .15 to see how it handles. Hope all is well...
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Post  steve thornton on Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:23 am

PeterJGregory wrote:Any updates? We're curious to outcomes. We are having some nice, cool weather up here in the Hudson Valley of NY. I got out 3 of the last 5 days and got a flight in with a second hand Ringmaster Jr. It was unflown when I got it, been flying it with Medallion .09 and TD .09, but thinking about putting the Medallion and then TD .15 to see how it handles. Hope all is well...
Thanks for the replies Gentlemen! I'm in the process of retiring and moving from Texas to Michigan, so the packing, selling/closing up the house and working until Dec 10, is keeping everything else on hold. It's all great news; I'll have a basement to build in, a flying field 7 miles from my home, and family & friends in Florida, Texas, and Colorado, whom I plan to impose upon during the deep winter months! As soon as I get moved, I plan to start a new thread about setting up a basement workshop...
Blessing to you guys
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Post  PeterJGregory on Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:32 am

All the best for the move - I have way overspent on my life allotment of moves, so I feel for you.

Pack those planes carefully, and jump back in when settled.

Cheers - Peter
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