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Post  nitroairplane Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:03 pm

Hi guys i have seen a lot of threads recently about tips for cox engines and models.
So if you have any tips you would like to share please post 'em here.
I mean model building tips, money saving tips or even general life tips.
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Post  PV Pilot Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:01 pm

I have seen a few posts on folks trying to clean up a gunky ebay find with stubborn screws and such. One good tip that i use is before it gets dunked in any kind of solvent is to heat the motor up really hot with a heat gun or hair dryer,,to the point of using your goodwill find oven mits to hold onto it. Then work the screws , bolts ect loose and sometimes apart. Use quality tipped tools with the proper tip size. You will be suprised. Then once you get apart what you can, then dunk it in your favorite solvent. Use good judgmnent folks,,dont try to turn that extra stubborn screw out of a unobtainable plastic piece,,no direct heat on said pieces also.
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Post  shell shock Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 pm

scratch building done on the cheap. i found 40% off coupons in my local paper for a arts store. bought plenty of balsa. used a nice sharp blade and razor saw.

my local hobby store (total) 22$ for assorted sizes of balsa wood (round four pieces were chosen based on needs)
michaels art store (total) 13$ (same size as above, and coupon discount applied)

point being, might be worth it to check your paper or online for coupons or sales at art stores
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:28 am

Very nice,
This is exactly what I hoped to acheive.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:32 am

I can't recommend too highly the use of properly fitting screwdrives and wrenches in dis- assembly/assembly of engines (or ANYTHING mechanical).


Additionally, always use SHARP drill bits designated for use on MODELS only not for household purposes.

Why make a repair even more difficult by using improper tools?
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:16 am

SuperDave wrote:I can't recommend too highly the use of properly fitting screwdrives and wrenches in dis- assembly/assembly of engines (or ANYTHING mechanical).


Additionally, always use SHARP drill bits designated for use on MODELS only not for household purposes.

Why make a repair even more difficult by using improper tools?


Yep I have dremel attachments that's are reserved just for modelling.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:31 am

Among the various tools that I have received from friends who have passed or gotten out of the hobby is self-centering mounting hole drill. It took some research to identify it but is is by Great Planes for about $8..

Very, very useful in drilling mounting holes EXACTLY centered where you want them.

Definitely worth the $$$.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:24 pm

I find that a coat of finishing resin on firewalls and engine mounts makes a great way to prevent nitro saturation and help preserve a plane's useful life-span.
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Post  shell shock Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:54 pm

SuperDave wrote:I find that a coat of finishing resin on firewalls and engine mounts makes a great way to prevent nitro saturation and help preserve a plane's useful life-span.

so true! ive skipped dope and resin alone, on my normal sized rc planes, i fiberglass the mount areas (if permited). not sure if it would be to heavy for these lil 1/2a's
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Post  PV Pilot Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:10 pm

shell shock wrote:scratch building done on the cheap. i found 40% off coupons in my local paper for a arts store. bought plenty of balsa. used a nice sharp blade and razor saw.

my local hobby store (total) 22$ for assorted sizes of balsa wood (round four pieces were chosen based on needs)
michaels art store (total) 13$ (same size as above, and coupon discount applied)

point being, might be worth it to check your paper or online for coupons or sales at art stores


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Your are looking at $15 worth of extremely marked down balsa wood. A local hardware store was getting out of the model side of things, and I spotted this tucked back in the corner. Bought it all, took the Midwest balsa display box as well, which gave me sku and part numbers also. The local Micheal's gets some of my business as well

SD, what finishing resin do you use?? I am about to that point on my Super Jake.
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:22 pm

PV Pilot wrote:
shell shock wrote:scratch building done on the cheap. i found 40% off coupons in my local paper for a arts store. bought plenty of balsa. used a nice sharp blade and razor saw.

my local hobby store (total) 22$ for assorted sizes of balsa wood (round four pieces were chosen based on needs)
michaels art store (total) 13$ (same size as above, and coupon discount applied)

point being, might be worth it to check your paper or online for coupons or sales at art stores


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Your are looking at $15 worth of extremely marked down balsa wood. A local hardware store was getting out of the model side of things, and I spotted this tucked back in the corner. Bought it all, took the Midwest balsa display box as well, which gave me sku and part numbers also. The local Micheal's gets some of my business as well

SD, what finishing resin do you use?? I am about to that point on my Super Jake.


That's a neat deal PV.
I usually just order mine online with free shipping due to the low weight.
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Post  microflitedude Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:44 pm

If you have motor that's hard to start, stay alert - if you flick it more and more casually, it will bite you when it kicks. Always flip as if you expect it to start running.

Stay out of the prop arc, avoid standing in front of the motor.

Always check all your screws/bolts prior to running. I've heard of many injuries from flying motors. silent
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Post  ideeman1994 Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:06 pm

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Always check all your screws/bolts prior to running. I've heard of many injuries from flying motors. silent

This happened to me 2 years ago, with the second Cox I got, a Pee Wee... I wasn't very experienced at the time, and simply attached the engine with ONE screw and 3 nails (YES, I know, very stupid thing to do silent ), that was the only thing I had to attach the Cox.
Guess I didn't realise how much vibration this engine could make, and the three nails just flew off... The Pee Wee started spinning around the only screw, until it eventually broke loose. I nearly hit me (under a meter from my head) and flew 10 meters away...

Since then, I always use bolts on the FOUR mounting brackets... Rolling Eyes



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Post  nitroairplane Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:30 pm

ideeman1994 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:
Always check all your screws/bolts prior to running. I've heard of many injuries from flying motors. silent

This happened to me 2 years ago, with the second Cox I got, a Pee Wee... I wasn't very experienced at the time, and simply attached the engine with ONE screw and 3 nails (YES, I know, very stupid thing to do silent ), that was the only thing I had to attach the Cox.
Guess I didn't realise how much vibration this engine could make, and the three nails just flew off... The Pee Wee started spinning around the only screw, until it eventually broke loose. I nearly hit me (under a meter from my head) and flew 10 meters away...

Since then, I always use bolts on the FOUR mounting brackets... Rolling Eyes




Similar thing happened to me a few year ago and the pee wee hit me in the foot but this wasnt my fault it actually was an experiment using 40% nitro and it broke the mounting lugs and the engine flew off the screws.
An it nearly happened to me last wee where the screws and fuel soaked wood combo could not take the vibrations and one by one each screw fell out.
CHeck out the video i stopped filming before the last screw came lose.
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Post  Admin Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:19 pm

I had a Black Widow fly *almost* fly off the stand. I caught it just in time but to only have it running in my hand. Yes it was very hot and yes I felt it for days afterwards.
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Post  nitroairplane Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:43 pm

Admin wrote:I had a Black Widow fly *almost* fly off the stand. I caught it just in time but to only have it running in my hand. Yes it was very hot and yes I felt it for days afterwards.

I regularly run my tee dee .010s in my hand and its fine but if i go near the cylinder OUCH painful and oily burns.
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Post  Admin Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:48 pm

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Admin wrote:I had a Black Widow fly *almost* fly off the stand. I caught it just in time but to only have it running in my hand. Yes it was very hot and yes I felt it for days afterwards.

I regularly run my tee dee .010s in my hand and its fine but if i go near the cylinder OUCH painful and oily burns.

You have a plastic tank to hold on to. When your holding a aluminum tank, the transfer of heat is greater plus the engine is larger. lol!
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Post  microflitedude Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:27 pm

Admin wrote:
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Admin wrote:I had a Black Widow fly *almost* fly off the stand. I caught it just in time but to only have it running in my hand. Yes it was very hot and yes I felt it for days afterwards.

I regularly run my tee dee .010s in my hand and its fine but if i go near the cylinder OUCH painful and oily burns.

You have a plastic tank to hold on to. When your holding a aluminum tank, the transfer of heat is greater plus the engine is larger. lol!

And at that point, you're in total shock and have no idea what to do. Shocked
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Post  Admin Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:29 pm

I did not want to close the needle valve since that thing was tuned just the way I wanted it. I stopped it by holding it by both cross vent tubes. That stopped the fuel from being vacuumed into the intake.
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Post  RknRusty Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:23 pm

I use a shop rag for emergency shutdowns.
Of course it helps if the prop hasn't left the premises.Laughing

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Post  Admin Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:10 pm

RknRusty wrote:I use a shop rag for emergency shutdowns.
Of course it helps if the prop hasn't left the premises.Laughing

Then you may want a work glove near by to grab the driveplate, or better yet, check the screw before starting!
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Post  shell shock Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:33 am

for my first rc nitro plane, it was a alpha 40. as i assembled it, the manual told me to use a spanner to put on the prop bolt.. i used pliers... i got a nice haircut that day... never again will i be so careless....
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:06 am

Yes one must be cautious around engines.
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Post  ideeman1994 Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:13 am

Not to mention the countless times I cut open my fingers with sharp props...

So another tip, when you're not experienced, wear gloves or use a chicken stick Wink
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:15 am

ideeman1994 wrote:Not to mention the countless times I cut open my fingers with sharp props...

So another tip, when you're not experienced, wear gloves or use a chicken stick Wink

Yep ap props are the sharpest I've seen.
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