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Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
A very important way to prevent the crank from breaking is to have a prop bolt that runs all the way into the hole. A good hard black oxide hex head, or either the stud that comes with a spinner nut are the best.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
I agree. And I will reiterate, a well balanced prop is the best thing you can do to extend the life of the crankcase bearing surfaces.crankbndr wrote:In my opinion if you stay with 25% nitro you will never bust a crank, you will wear out the crankcase pretty fast running over 19K...
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
This will probably answer most if not all your questions.
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t753-the-revised-2011-gibeault-mouse-race-program
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t753-the-revised-2011-gibeault-mouse-race-program
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
ive read that whole article atleast 5 times
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
Ok, just trying to help.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
Most of the answers I give you will be what I learned from Paul's article.
Anything I tell you that's different is probably because I forgot something from it.
At the time, I didn't polish my crank as well as Paul because I didn't know how he did it. I used 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and worked the bearing surfaces by hand. Then I read in other posts about chucking the splined end of the crank in a drill press and pinching the paper around the crank. That does a much better job. Just don't get carried away and overdo it. I've done it that way ever since. Do NOT use any abrasives on the bearing surfaces in the crankcase. That will ruin it.
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Anything I tell you that's different is probably because I forgot something from it.
At the time, I didn't polish my crank as well as Paul because I didn't know how he did it. I used 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and worked the bearing surfaces by hand. Then I read in other posts about chucking the splined end of the crank in a drill press and pinching the paper around the crank. That does a much better job. Just don't get carried away and overdo it. I've done it that way ever since. Do NOT use any abrasives on the bearing surfaces in the crankcase. That will ruin it.
Rusty
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
oh no i didnt mean it like that, i still refer back to it from time to time, thanks for the link though
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
yeah i would like to know what he polishes his cranks with to make the pin rock to the bottom of the crankcase, that thing has got to be super slick.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
I think he starts with oiled 800 and finishes with 1000. But to be sure, click his profile and then click all of his posts. Or PM him. I'm guessing next time Paul logs in he'll see this and post. I've name-dropped his name enough to get his attention.looperdude wrote:yeah i would like to know what he polishes his cranks with to make the pin rock to the bottom of the crankcase, that thing has got to be super slick.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
I use the drill as well, start at say 1000 them go way down to 2000 to 2500. You can find those grades of paper at Autozone type stores as it's what's commonly used in the auto paint industry.
Ron
Edit: just saw Rusty's post, not trying to contradict Rusty it's just what I do. Rusty can build some fast engines.
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Edit: just saw Rusty's post, not trying to contradict Rusty it's just what I do. Rusty can build some fast engines.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
Wow, I bet that really makes it glassy. I didn't know you could get paper that fine... I believe you were the Tach Race champ this year, Mister Cribbs.Cribbs74 wrote:I use the drill as well, start at say 1000 them go way down to 2000 to 2500. You can find those grades of paper at Autozone type stores as it's what's commonly used in the auto paint industry.
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Edit: just saw Rusty's post, not trying to contradict Rusty it's just what I do. Rusty can build some fast engines.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
Uh oh,
Did I just let the cat out of the bag? Just gave away my secret weapon!
Yeah I think 2500 is as fine as you can go. It feels as smooth as a sheet of writing paper.
Did I just let the cat out of the bag? Just gave away my secret weapon!
Yeah I think 2500 is as fine as you can go. It feels as smooth as a sheet of writing paper.
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Re: Rebuilding a Black Widow, mouse racer style.
i usually use wore out 400 wetdry on my cranks, with a little oil
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