Corsair kit flea market find

it could be silver fish

Looks like a all winter project , as Ron said make it a scale UC and man that would bee something to see , Cool Beans , all the wood in good shape ? Most creators don't like Balsa and that's a good thing !!

cox24711 wrote:it could be silver fish

Good one Greg. The Killer of great vintage books.
That and the deathwatch beetle.
Bob

roddie wrote:

cox24711 wrote:it could be silver fish

Maybe Greg.. If it is a bug.. it's a small one.. unless the box was open.. which is a possibility.

There's no damage/staining to any of the wood though. The gear struts, wood blocks and hdwe. are still sealed in one bag. There's even a sample-swatch of Mono-Kote stapled to a Top-Flite ad. for it's use. (it's strange that certain papers weren't affected by whatever attacked the box and instruction booklet.)



While taking the above photo.. I pawed deeper through the box for the first time.. and my suspicions (unfortunately) are true. The cowl and canopy are missing... They can be made easy enough though.

I thought about a control-line conversion. It's a stand-off-scale design.. so it wouldn't be sac-religious to do some "kit-bashing".   Still.. I can't afford an engine for it. A Carrier model would be interesting though. I'll have to ask Jim (jpvelo) if he knows whether there's a class for models this large.

If you build it I will supply an engine...

dckrsn wrote:

cox24711 wrote:it could be silver fish

Good one Greg. The Killer of great vintage books.
That and the deathwatch beetle.
Bob

Yeah, silverfish can get to all kinds of places. I am renovating our kitchen and under some loose floor tiles there were a whole bunch of them, little ones and bigger ones and their poop too. I have some vintage books in the next room, better check them for damage I think silverfish is also known as "bookworm".

Yes, Silverfish, nasty things. They loved the cardboard boxes in the attic over the garage in Florida. I was worried about transporting them to West Virginia when we moved but not so, seems they don't survive here. But we did find a scorpion inside a boxed TV when we unpacked.

Nice find on that F4U, I have to get busy on mine.

Bob

I think a 7 to 9 pound plane (112oz-144oz) will be a bit too large to fly control line...big heavy planes have been done and it is very possible to construct it for wires and a bell crank, but truthfully that particular kit is a very good RC bird. I have seen many of them built and flown

One I know has a Super Tiger G90 (same size and weight as the ST .60) with a very good looking scale 4 wide paddle propeller dragging the plane around and she flies very realistically with working flaps and retract gear. The guy even added one of the cool sound chips and speaker system to simulate machine gun on strafing runs... it also has the radial engine (Merlin) sound track but it sounds terrible against the 2 cycle motor

As kits go, this is one of top flights hardest to build. And if you are a master builder you will replace a LOT of the wood for the correct density/weight/grain in many areas

One more bit of concern...one of these landing at our RC field caught a gust of wind just as it settled on the gear---- flipped it over...I called it a total loss--- but the owner loved it so much he spent a year rebuilding it....point is when this kit crashes, it is pretty ugly


All that said it is my favorite military airplane (thanks Black Sheep Squadron) and on my bucket list to build--- But I am looking at some of the (much more expensive) larger laser (kits)

Roddie,

Class 1&2 carrier (full fuselage classes) have a max wingspan of 44". A Rossi .60 in a 44" model has got to be a good time!

You should build it up as a scale model with a throttle. I can supply with a three line handle if you decide to go that way.

Jim

Nice Kit.please post progress pics...thanks Joe

Nice Corsair kit. That's a famous "red box" version of the Top Flite series of semi-scale R/C models. Nice looking, great for C/L Sport Scale event. The canopy and cowling are available still, the Gold Edition 61 inch model is the same scale and currently made. Great flying models, a modern 61 R/C engine on 2.4 would be great fun. In the past many Scale flyers have chosen these models to compete with to good result. I remember a Junior flyer in the 80's used the Top Flite Thunderbolt, with flaps and retracts.
A model's pull at the handle is trimmed by balance and leadout position, for flying level a big Scale model needn't pull all that hard.
Chris...

Yeah the Ring will get you in the air quicker. Maybe shelve the corsair for a later date.

If we all lived on the same street we would never work and play all the time!!!

Roddie,

Are any of these guys in your 'hood? Might be worth going to a meeting and see if you can hook up with anyone local. Just be careful, you might end up as club secretary like me!

https://sites.google.com/site/newenglandstuntteam/

Roddie, no need to be apprehensive on ordering or buying your fuel. We all can tell you of decades old fuel that is still good because it was in a good container, sealed, and kept in the dark.

My preference is metal cans but I have a lot of plastic jug, gallons and quarts that are various vintage (most less than 5 years but two that are old stock 20+ years Fox missile mist). The old stuff is still good for what I play with

I screwed up early on buying fuel and failed to MARK the jug(s) with the necessary info (some stick on factory labels fell off) so ended up using it for cleaning and bench running only

I think a good investment a few years ago was a full gallon of nitro and gallon methanol from e-bay seller Torco
( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Torco-RC-Fuel-100-Nitro-Gallon-/190692756364?hash=item2c662c8b8c)

Sig sells a quarts of pure castor and quarts of the Benol oils

And during a buy from Riches brew I had him ship me a quart of Ucon 625 oil

With these components on hand I can adjust most store bought fuels to a blend I need or want to experiment with

Sig also got my business for quarts of the champion all castor blends
I have not tried the new Hobbico Cox blend but reports here are it is good stuff

Being real anal about UV deterioration I bought some 1 gallon metal cans from a local Sherwin-Williams paint store

All my fuel is now marked by what is in it, and what engine group is was blended for

All fuel is stored in a climate controlled building, and in the dark.

I never take a gallon jug to the flying site. The pint and quart jugs I do take, are always covered with a towel out of direct sun and never left OPEN

Several thoughts further hijacking the Corsair thread

I had though about using quart cans but opted for the locally bought gallon cans. Only time will tell if they do or do not rust inside. I mention this because I bought about 6 gallons of fuel from a deceased RC club members estate sale. I examined each can with a pen light, and while most of the vintage gallon fuel and cans were in "as new" shape (inside) several of the old stock Cox and Estes pint cans had rusted inside at the bottom and side seams.

I took the fuel from the rusty cans, Nitro/oil percentage unknown, filtered, and mixed it all into a 1 used gallon plastic jug and marked it for cleaning, and bench running. I am sure some was 25%N and some 10%N but have no idea what oil content was. Having several RC large displacement, but relatively low cost, engines I used the unknown fuel for the hours long break in recommendations. As far as I can tell the engines like the fuel on the bench, did not over heat, and allowed me to get a lot of hot/cool cycles on them fairly cheaply....That said, I would never peak out or fly with the questionable fuel

I also got two gallons of Missile mist (my child hood favorite) and I am a miser with it only running on the bench for the crackle sound and smell in my Fox and Enya 35s

Fun Facts (no reference, just my observations from reading and real life)

Pure Methanol is hyrdoscopic meaning it will absorb water vapor directly from the atmosphere
-- I can observe this in an poorly sealed container of straight methanol...
You wounder how can I observe this?

Yes it is true, unlike water in gasoline (many have seen this in our lawn mover fuel tanks) water in Methanol is totally absorbed and not visible.
--One day mixing precise volumes with a graduated beaker, I got a phone call right as I finished putting 120ML (about 4oz)of methanol in the beaker (hot 75% humidity day) an hour later I got off the phone with my sister and back to "blending"-- OH crap the beaker now had 123ML of fluid in it

I sort off suspect blended fuel with OIL and Nitro greatly reduce the absorption rate. This from my observation of my RC buddies at the airfield all day long at 65% humidity leaving their gallon jugs open and the fuel seems to be just fine for their sport flying

Before the expense of buying 98~99%pure Nitromethane, I needed to know about the stuff---off to google and Wiki

Angus Chemicals, now a subsidiary of Dow Chemical Co. since about June of 2000 is the ONLY major manufacturer of nitromethane in this hemisphere. Also, Angus makes just ONE grade of nitromethane, about 98.4% pure and it is used for industrial use, car racing, and a very small amount, relatively speaking, for model use.

Nitro degrades by photodecomposition and is broken down slowly on exposure to light, but it is a very slow and drawn out process, occurring over months and years of storage. Overall, the chemical stability of nitromethane is pretty good compared to a lot of other chemical compounds. If you put a clear bottle of nitro, tightly capped, in a dark place that does not get any light except when you take out some nitro for your fuel, it will last for years.

roddie wrote:Were you happy with the tank you built recently?  

Very happy. It's one of those things that was a lot easier to do than I thought it would be.

Jim