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Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
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Kim- Top Poster
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Re: Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
It is a cool build. I used 6 oz fiberglass since Celastic is pretty hard to get. Lighter would have been better, but this little strip of thick fiberglass is not excessively heavy. I should have used the SIG 1.5 oz glass tape. I set in Testors wood and metal cement instead of epoxy which did prevent more unnecessary weight.
I built for electric 3 channel, but found the rudder too small as drawn. I added 3/8 inch to the rudder, and enlarged the elevator to 3/4 inch. The original motor I chose was a .049 equivalent, which has way too much torque. I am switching to a brushed motor from indoor flyers. The 5g servos I chose are also pretty heavy after adding in 2s battery RX mounting ESC... I managed to score a AR6400 RX (which has been superseded AS6410) but have not completed the change over to the new kit. I will be saving a lot of weight with the changes. I hope to be below 100g when done. I have not tested the new configuration.
This RX will also be able to use 1s lipo power, and can be powered by a tiny postage stamp size 100mah battery. For glow power this will be a long flight time, since this is 5-20 minutes with DC micro electric.
I decorated with sharpie markers and applied clear polyurethane. I feel my finish is fairly lightweight, but maybe not as light as possible. 2 coats of clear dope probably weighs in a few grams lighter.
The 148g I ended up at is overweight for this model. I expect to be closer to 80g when done refitting. Club members who built these years ago told me that my version is very heavy.
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t9262-pageboy-in-electric?highlight=pageboy
I built for electric 3 channel, but found the rudder too small as drawn. I added 3/8 inch to the rudder, and enlarged the elevator to 3/4 inch. The original motor I chose was a .049 equivalent, which has way too much torque. I am switching to a brushed motor from indoor flyers. The 5g servos I chose are also pretty heavy after adding in 2s battery RX mounting ESC... I managed to score a AR6400 RX (which has been superseded AS6410) but have not completed the change over to the new kit. I will be saving a lot of weight with the changes. I hope to be below 100g when done. I have not tested the new configuration.
This RX will also be able to use 1s lipo power, and can be powered by a tiny postage stamp size 100mah battery. For glow power this will be a long flight time, since this is 5-20 minutes with DC micro electric.
I decorated with sharpie markers and applied clear polyurethane. I feel my finish is fairly lightweight, but maybe not as light as possible. 2 coats of clear dope probably weighs in a few grams lighter.
The 148g I ended up at is overweight for this model. I expect to be closer to 80g when done refitting. Club members who built these years ago told me that my version is very heavy.
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t9262-pageboy-in-electric?highlight=pageboy
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Re: Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
https://www.coxengineforum.com/gallery/Personal-album-of-balogh/2011-11-19-1935411-pic_326.htm
Just to share my Gallery picture with this thread as well...
Just to share my Gallery picture with this thread as well...
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Re: Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
balogh wrote:https://www.coxengineforum.com/gallery/Personal-album-of-balogh/2011-11-19-1935411-pic_326.htm
Just to share my Gallery picture with this thread as well...
Any chance you can throw that on a scale and let me know what it weighs in at?
Phil
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Re: Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
Sure thing Phil just wait until I hit home
András
András
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Re: Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
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Any chance you can throw that on a scale and let me know what it weighs in at?
Phil[/quote]
Phil,
here is my Pageboy a bit disembowelled, waiting for an overhaul on its fuse coverage. The assembly weighs around 193 grams, say, 6,8 oz with the following parts included:
1. Fuse and wing complete with elevator, rudder and pushrod mechanisms
2. TD010 with stock 3x1,25 prop
3. two Hitech nano servos
4. one microswitch harness with battery charging lead
5. a 330mAH NiMH battery
6. a Futaba receiver
I hope it helps.
Any chance you can throw that on a scale and let me know what it weighs in at?
Phil[/quote]
Phil,
here is my Pageboy a bit disembowelled, waiting for an overhaul on its fuse coverage. The assembly weighs around 193 grams, say, 6,8 oz with the following parts included:
1. Fuse and wing complete with elevator, rudder and pushrod mechanisms
2. TD010 with stock 3x1,25 prop
3. two Hitech nano servos
4. one microswitch harness with battery charging lead
5. a 330mAH NiMH battery
6. a Futaba receiver
I hope it helps.
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Re: Ken Willard 'Page Boy'
Well, that settles it. My problem was not due to weight. Balance maybe, I was having problems with keeping the nose up, and this should balance more like a free flight plane than anything else. I think I was having more problems from the large-ish rotating mass of the electric out-runner and too much prop. I did put a 5 inch prop on.
Phil
Phil
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