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PT19 external fuel tank conversion.
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PT19 external fuel tank conversion.
A new thread on an old issue.. My PT19 is among the mid 1990's versions; equipped with a Cox .049 "Product-Engine".. but preceding the Sure-Start engine.
My version of this model, had a Cox .049 reed-valve "Product Engine". In the mid 1990's; a Cox .049 Product engine consisted of (generally) the current Cox .049 reed-valve crankcase.. fitted with the 2nd generation product backplate/carb.. which utilized an external fuel-tank/supply. This was a continued effort by Cox.. to produce a model-engine that could be fitted/retro-fitted into existing/future designs. By this time; Cox likely noticed that there were other modeling-companies (Goldberg for instance..)who were producing adapting-mounts for the earlier 190/290 product engines.. allowing these otherwise "misfit-engines" engines to have a "second-life" in a Goldberg balsa-wood kit-model. Cox eventually "wised-up" and re-engineered their product backplate/carburetor to have mounting-provisions (4 screw-holes) for a standard 1/2-A engine size radial-firewall.
My "first" experience with the Cox PT19 Flight Trainer was "really wonderful".. because my "dad" bought the model.. and brought it to my house as a "surprise" one day. I was in my early "30's". The Cox "kit" had everything needed to get the model in the air.. for a few flights.. at least. I had shown a past interest in his control-line flying.. so my dad "passed the torch".. so to speak.
To move forward...
I wanted to give a report on what I'm doing, to retro-fit an alternate fuel-tank to this model.
Here's a few photos of a Sullivan #435 1oz. clunk-tank fitted in-between the fuse-walls of the models' nose.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20180823](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20180823.jpg)
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20180824](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20180824.jpg)
I'll admit.. that it's difficult to see how the Sullivan tank integrates into the airframe here.. but when the "wing" is anchored into position; it (the wing..) provides a barrier that should prevent the tank from interfering with the model's bellcrank. In addition; this retro-fitted tanks' position will be "nearer" the models' center of gravity.
My version of this model, had a Cox .049 reed-valve "Product Engine". In the mid 1990's; a Cox .049 Product engine consisted of (generally) the current Cox .049 reed-valve crankcase.. fitted with the 2nd generation product backplate/carb.. which utilized an external fuel-tank/supply. This was a continued effort by Cox.. to produce a model-engine that could be fitted/retro-fitted into existing/future designs. By this time; Cox likely noticed that there were other modeling-companies (Goldberg for instance..)who were producing adapting-mounts for the earlier 190/290 product engines.. allowing these otherwise "misfit-engines" engines to have a "second-life" in a Goldberg balsa-wood kit-model. Cox eventually "wised-up" and re-engineered their product backplate/carburetor to have mounting-provisions (4 screw-holes) for a standard 1/2-A engine size radial-firewall.
My "first" experience with the Cox PT19 Flight Trainer was "really wonderful".. because my "dad" bought the model.. and brought it to my house as a "surprise" one day. I was in my early "30's". The Cox "kit" had everything needed to get the model in the air.. for a few flights.. at least. I had shown a past interest in his control-line flying.. so my dad "passed the torch".. so to speak.
To move forward...
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Here's a few photos of a Sullivan #435 1oz. clunk-tank fitted in-between the fuse-walls of the models' nose.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20180823](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20180823.jpg)
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20180824](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20180824.jpg)
I'll admit.. that it's difficult to see how the Sullivan tank integrates into the airframe here.. but when the "wing" is anchored into position; it (the wing..) provides a barrier that should prevent the tank from interfering with the model's bellcrank. In addition; this retro-fitted tanks' position will be "nearer" the models' center of gravity.
Last edited by roddie on Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:03 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: PT19 external fuel tank conversion.
Well, I held a 3/8 oz Brodak tank inside the fuse of a PT, and it looks like it'd be easy to mount in there. You'd have a bit more flying time than an 8 cc tank.
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Re: PT19 external fuel tank conversion.
I've been "messing" with the Sullivan SS-1 #435 1 oz. clunk-tank.. and it's not going to be an "easy" retrofit. There's plenty of space for a comparable "gravity-feed"/roundy-round fuel-tank, like the one that was designed for this model. I'll come up with something.. I want to fly this airplane for this year's event.
Re: PT19 external fuel tank conversion.
Four and a half years ago.. YIKES! Where does the time go???
Last weekend was "give your beloved aero-modeling hobby some LOVE Roddie" weekend. So I'm indexing my planes and come to the PT19. Most of my little airplanes hang from their lead-outs via mini bungee cords over a drain-pipe halfway across the cellar ceiling.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230116](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230116.jpg)
So... the rubber-bands holding the engine-mount/landing gear into the nose.. are failing. I removed the model to the bench for a little inspection.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20180919](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20180919.jpg)
A while back.... ??
I did a bellcrank mod... and now notice that the screw doesn't go as deep as with the OEM bellcrank.. causing it to protrude into the wing-seat.
I chose to bore a clearance-hole in the wing, for the protruding screw-head and washer.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230117](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230117.jpg)
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230118](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230118.jpg)
The wing seats properly now.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230119](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230119.jpg)
The fuel-tank issue still needs to be addressed....
all in good time. I gave her a little love.
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Last weekend was "give your beloved aero-modeling hobby some LOVE Roddie" weekend. So I'm indexing my planes and come to the PT19. Most of my little airplanes hang from their lead-outs via mini bungee cords over a drain-pipe halfway across the cellar ceiling.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230116](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230116.jpg)
So... the rubber-bands holding the engine-mount/landing gear into the nose.. are failing. I removed the model to the bench for a little inspection.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20180919](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20180919.jpg)
A while back.... ??
![Huh...](/users/3015/29/34/60/smiles/3929217648.gif)
I chose to bore a clearance-hole in the wing, for the protruding screw-head and washer.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230117](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230117.jpg)
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230118](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230118.jpg)
The wing seats properly now.
![PT19 external fuel tank conversion. 20230119](https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/18/50/45/90/20230119.jpg)
The fuel-tank issue still needs to be addressed....
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