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Can anyone identify this wood? Hoping it's good stock for beams.

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Post  RknRusty on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:27 pm

I picked up a half dozen pieces of this tongue & groove wood from a scrap pile. The lengths were all close but not all the same. It appears to be very hard and heavy. Here are examples. I'll try to make one picture zoomed in on the grain.
This piece is 18.25" x 2.25" x 1/2"(or so) and weighs 1 pound. I'm hoping it will be suitable for high quality engine mounting beams.
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Post  dckrsn on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:38 pm

Just a stab Rusty, but I'll guess oak floor laminate.
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maybe maple

Post  happydad on Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:55 pm

dckrsn wrote:Just a stab Rusty, but I'll guess oak floor laminate.
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could be light colored maple also a hardwood.

edited 12-12-2015 8:08p.m. PST -   my daughter re-did her floor with a thin maple wood flooring and it looked very similar. Is the wood soft, hard, or very hard?


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Post  Jason_WI on Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:05 pm

I have cut maple, white ash, red oak, birch, walnut, butternut, beach, elm, and american hornbeam on my bandsaw mill and none of them look like that. Could be something imported if its flooring.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:14 pm

The first two pics look like oak grain to me. The last pic does not.

Just be sure it's not veneer. If you can make a dent in it with your fingernail, stay away.

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Re: Can anyone identify this wood? Hoping it's good stock for beams.

Post  RknRusty on Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:16 pm

It's very heavy and rock hard. I'm thinking Oak too. Poor choice for engine bearers. My maple supply left over from the bathroom renovation got black mold in the October flood.
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Post  RknRusty on Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:19 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:The first two pics look like oak grain to me. The last pic does not.

Just be sure it's not veneer. If you can make a dent in it with your fingernail, stay away.

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The last pic is the top side with the decorative 1/2" grooves cut into it lengthwise. No, I cannot dent it... barely with a hammer. It's really hard stuff.
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epoxy coating?

Post  happydad on Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:29 pm

RknRusty wrote:
Cribbs74 wrote:The first two pics look like oak grain to me. The last pic does not.

Just be sure it's not veneer. If you can make a dent in it with your fingernail, stay away.

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The last pic is the top side with the decorative 1/2" grooves cut into it lengthwise. No, I cannot dent it... barely with a hammer. It's really hard stuff.
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Rusty: My guess is that it has some kind of hard finish on the top side. Like epoxy, but the key is how hard is the side and the bottom of the wood. Try the fingernail test on the side and bottom of the wood.

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Post  akjgardner on Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:18 am

Looks like white oak to me
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Post  Oldenginerod on Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:01 am

While everyone else is guessing, I might as well have a shot. I'm tipping Teak.
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Post  fredvon4 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:06 am

I can't tell from the photos ...I doubt it is Teak, most likely old white Oak

Just cut a piece....and make up your typical mount method ( I think you always use aluminum on the engine side) and set the bearer screws/bolts to the torque you are used to--- and see if the blind nut or inserts crush the piece

I suspect it will work as good as the Mapel we prefer
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Post  getback on Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:32 am

I will agree with Bob oak floor laminate , have you tried to sand the shiny side to see how deep it goes ? If you would want I have pressure treated mahogany wood that I would bee more than happy to cut you some lengths of desired measurements , just let me know . Eric Very Happy
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Post  Marleysky on Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:30 pm

RknRusty wrote:It's very heavy and rock hard. I'm thinking Oak too. Poor choice for engine bearers. My maple supply left over from the bathroom renovation got black mold in the October flood.
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Your sample looks like a pre finished floor, 1/2" thick hardwood.
Sorry to hear your stash got the black mold from the flood.
I have an abundent supply of wood rejects from a wood chair armrest. These are 10" long 2" wide 3/4" thick. I'm not sure if these are maple or oak. Be more than happy to send you some to play with.  PM me your address, if interested.

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Re: Can anyone identify this wood? Hoping it's good stock for beams.

Post  ian1954 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:49 pm

From the figure of the wood it is White Oak that has aged and hardened. I am not sure though that it is suitable for engine bearers.

This is a link to a "hardness" chart

http://workshoppages.com/WS/Misc/Wood-Hardness-Chart.pdf

If you compare White Oak to Maple you will see that Maple is harder but that isn't the full story.

Maple has tighter and closer grain making it more suitable for small diameter bolts and screws. You may find these working loose in Oak.

I tried engine bearers from English Oak - when aged it hardens and darkens and blunts saws and chisels but the bolt holes enlarged quickly.

I now use Beech from discarded furniture - same hardness as White Oak but a very tight close and straight grain.
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Post  Oldenginerod on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:01 pm

Regardless of the wood discussion, welcome back Ian. It's been quite some time.

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Post  RknRusty on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:33 pm

Oldenginerod wrote:Regardless of the wood discussion, welcome back Ian.  It's been quite some time.

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Yes it has, Ian, and we've missed you. I hope all is well.
When we became worried about you and you contacted me, I posted a note assuring everyone you were indeed fine and well. Glad to see you drop in.
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Post  happydad on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:41 pm

ian1954 wrote:From the figure of the wood it is White Oak that has aged and hardened. I am not sure though that it is suitable for engine bearers.

This is a link to a "hardness" chart

http://workshoppages.com/WS/Misc/Wood-Hardness-Chart.pdf

If you compare White Oak to Maple you will see that Maple is harder but that isn't the full story.

Maple has tighter and closer grain making it more suitable for small diameter bolts and screws. You may find these working loose in Oak.

I tried engine bearers from English Oak - when aged it hardens and darkens and blunts saws and chisels but the bolt holes enlarged quickly.

I now use Beech from discarded furniture - same hardness as White Oak but a very tight close and straight grain.

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Post  RknRusty on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:14 pm

happydad wrote:Ian Who? From Where?  lol!  
The Doctor, of course. I believe from the planet Gallifrey

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Oh. I thought the swamp of Dagobah from the Picture.

Post  happydad on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:09 am

RknRusty wrote:
happydad wrote:Ian Who? From Where?  lol!  
The Doctor, of course. I believe from the planet Gallifrey

Oh, Sorry Ian, I thought it was Yoda from the swamp of Dagobah from the Avatar. lol!

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