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Post  ShapeShifter Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:26 pm

It looks like it may be from a boat.  At least I found it my old model boat stuff that I dusted off recently.

Engine looks almost unused and the bracket that is is mounted to has no tool marks on it.  It has a "ratchet" type exhaust throttle.

Any ideas which vehicle this may be from?

Thanks!

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Post  706jim Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:17 pm

I don't think it's from a boat with that gear on the crankshaft. Probably some sort of car.
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Post  Cribbs74 Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:34 pm

Not my area of expertise however, Dumas used to sell cox conversion kits for boat applications. Your engine was originally a Cox car engine, but looks to have had an aftermarket boat kit added to it.
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Post  ShapeShifter Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:47 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:Not my area of expertise however, Dumas used to sell cox conversion kits for boat applications. Your engine was originally a Cox car engine, but looks to have had an aftermarket boat kit added to it.

How can you tell it was a car engine?
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Post  Marleysky Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:03 pm

ShapeShifter wrote:
Cribbs74 wrote:Not my area of expertise however, Dumas used to sell cox conversion kits for boat applications. Your engine was originally a Cox car engine, but looks to have had an aftermarket boat kit added to it.

How can you tell it was a car engine?

Look at the instruction sheets ( on the left hand margin 1/2 way down the page) or click on this and go to the last two or three pages
https://5dbfd882-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/coxengineforumfiles/Cox%201977%20Parts%20Catalog.PDF?attachauth=ANoY7crIV-2dGtRfbgOep3wrsEinssKXuoxW9uot1vDXANpJxjS8H753dKfWJzW9OKP2CLGrBXgjI_PkviIxt3VVssO6mYdqnH8xbcvdNfdJ-CBB5x7ij9brdR7WqT9GpMPrBcs2tERwq5lO_RmfcMXwnQ0zF2P-LDd7L_G0EhdT0qKfVWbLuvrrKER7S8DdqAiRhOeQHwawgp1pLP8uxe0zQh_UQfkkN_HYQcmEG9mbNCVr_3oevbo%3D&attredirects=0
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Post  ShapeShifter Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:23 pm

Marleysky wrote:
ShapeShifter wrote:
Cribbs74 wrote:Not my area of expertise however, Dumas used to sell cox conversion kits for boat applications. Your engine was originally a Cox car engine, but looks to have had an aftermarket boat kit added to it.

How can you tell it was a car engine?

Look at the instruction sheets ( on the left hand margin 1/2 way down the page)  or click on this and go to the last two or three pages

So you're thinking it may have been from the Dune Buggy? Maybe. The pawl for the throttle is part of the bracket tray thing though. Also, I know Dumas made hardware kits for the .049, but the ones I have seen are just a flywheel for a belt starter and an angled block of wood.

Anyway, thanks for the input!
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Post  Oldenginerod Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:00 am

A little more research required fellas.  Cox Sea Bee boat by the looks.
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Post  Oldenginerod Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:04 am

Also here.  Scroll down.
http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/cox_models.htm
So, what you have there sir is most definitely from a Sea Bee.

Rod.
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Post  ShapeShifter Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:30 am

Oldenginerod wrote:Also here.  Scroll down.

So, what you have there sir is most definitely from a Sea Bee.

Rod.

Rod, Thanks for digging that up!  I'm usually pretty good at googling research but failed miserably on this one.  Good on ya!


Now I need to decide if I should sell it or mount it on a plaque...... Very Happy
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Post  getback Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:40 am

Good Job Rod !! Greenie for U , I had never seen one and now I know why . Babe Bee
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Post  706jim Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:41 am

Many years ago, a cousin of mine and I raced the Cox Danny Ongais rail dragster and the Cox funny car down a long hallway in the basement of the local university. Needless to say, it was a job getting both of them running at the same time for a race, but the results were quite interesting. The funny car would beat the dragster off of the line, but the dragster would catch up to it and pass it by the end of the race. (Both were guided by strings). We even brought wax to try and increase traction doing a sort of "burnout" before racing.
I would never have the patience now to complete this exercise, but I'm glad we did so that I could relate this story.
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:48 am

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Post  fredvon4 Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:04 pm

My dad inherited a late 40's Chris Craft Mahogany 16' runabout boat as I was 14 years old...what a superbly beautiful piece or wood work and machinery! I have, near the very top of my bucket list, the desire to own a similar full sized boat and sincerely want to build a model of it

As he was posted overseas yet again (Chile) he/we sold it in 1971----- and the family enjoyed the much needed infusion of $$$$$$

This engine begs to be used....

Sure wish I was not an hour from any reservoir or any body of water to play model or real sized boats!!!   My -o- my do I have sea faring stories from my youth near and on the sea or some lake....
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Post  Marleysky Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:24 pm

Oldenginerod wrote:Also here.  Scroll down.
http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/cox_models.htm
So, what you have there sir is most definitely from a Sea Bee.

Rod.

Thanks Rod, I never would have guessed it was a factory original boat motor! Don't have much experience with the cox watercraft. I learned something today, THanks again!
cheers cheers
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