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Post  F4D Phantom II Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:14 pm

Hello Guy`s
I was searching for a queen bee head in the classifieds and a guy posted a video of a queen bee with an OS turbo plug. I would like information on the head he used. I`m going to try to coax a little more power from a queen bee I bought.all info appreciated
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Post  fit90 Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:32 pm

The Queen Bee and .09's use the same head. Find a turbo head for an .09 and use it on your Queen Bee.
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Post  F4D Phantom II Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:03 pm

Hello Fit90
I did a search for a cox.09 turbo glow head and had no luck. I guess I will have to look for a TD.09 head. I want to make this engine perform better than factory. I bought a used .074 that turned out to be brand new. I took it apart to evaluate the engine. I think I can do some improving,already polished the crank. Thanks for the help.
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Post  944_Jim Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:16 pm

Guys, let's give a warm welcome to Juan. Juan comes over here from StuntHanger!

Juan, show the group your latest Midwest P-40 clone build! You get bigger file shares here.
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Post  F4D Phantom II Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:41 pm

Hello Jim
         Here are a few pictures of my Midwest Mini Warbird P-40. All I had was the plan side view on a plan book I have but did some search and in a control line book by Dick Sarpolus I found a photo of the parts that I enlarged to build this little plane.
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Post  Marleysky Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:43 pm

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Post  F4D Phantom II Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:52 pm

Hello Marley
Glad to be here.
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Post  KariFS Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:40 am

Welcome Juan!

I like what you did with the "snorkel" on the Sure Start Thumbs Up

Are you going to use a balloon tank?

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Post  MauricioB Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:22 am

Welcome Juan, I want you to enjoy the good PEOPLE of this place.
Greetings to you Thumbs Up
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Post  F4D Phantom II Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:51 am

KariFS wrote:Welcome Juan!

I like what you did with the "snorkel" on the Sure Start Thumbs Up

Are you going to use a balloon tank?

                 Hello KariFS
                                     I cut the snorkle at 45 degrees to get a little supercharging. As the air hits it is forced into the venturi. I`m going to use an oblong wedge uniflow tin tank I made.  Here is a pic. Hello From the island of Puerto Rico,Glad to be here.
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Post  F4D Phantom II Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:53 am

MauricioB wrote:Welcome Juan, I want you to enjoy the good PEOPLE of this place.
Greetings to you Thumbs Up

    Hello Mauricio
                         Glad to be here a lot of friendly people in this forum.Thanks.
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Post  aspeed Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:08 am

I like the wedge in the tank idea. I think the turbo plug head was made at home. That is what most guys do if they have a lathe at home. It is easy to convert a burned out head from an .09 or whatever you have. A 1/4 - 32" head does not have enough neat left, so the stock .074 head will not work easily. There are not a lot of mods on a reedy that make much difference for power beyond a bigger carb and a proper head. I wrote down a bunch of numbers with a Cox .074 with no muffler on 10% fuel . 16,000 with the TD .09 head. 15,400 with the stock 1/4" - 32 head. With the muffler I got 13,800 and 14,600, so the muffler sucks a lot of power. All tests used a 6 - 3.5" prop. I checked a few .074 motors that I have on the same day. A T Tiger was around 14,000 to 14,900 with a similar 6.3 - 4 prop, and the turbo plug head that I made up went up to 16,200. (Others went even better) So that was a worthwhile step up. A Big Mig .074 was 18,900 with no muffler and a 6 - 3.5 and a Gilbert .07 was 11,000. (That is even pre reedy days).
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Post  F4D Phantom II Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:50 am

Hello aspeed
Thanks for the info I saved in my engine mods folder for reference. I wanted a tank that wouldn`t be too far from the engine and that was the shape that fit the bill. I have done engine work previously and will try to make a turbo head for the engine. I had a though time removing the Queen bee`s head,I tried applying heat and it didn`t work. I put the cilinder with the glow head in a plastic bag and placed in the freezer last night this morning the glow head came off real easy. Thanks again.
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Post  aspeed Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:10 pm

If you make a turbo head, I found that a 100 degree, or probably a 90 degree countersink makes a good combustion chamber on the .049s. I made them about .060" from the squish band to the surface of the turbo plug. An .074 maybe could be .075 deep or so? I used a ball cutter for the .07 T Tiger just to match the original shape. I think the thread size for the Turbo plugs are 8mm x .75mm pitch. A Nelson plug is good, but the size is very odd and expensive. The taper for the turbo plug is 60 degrees and minor diameter would be 7.25mm. I used a 1/4" countersink and backed it away the proper amount to give the diameter.
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Post  akjgardner Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:39 pm

welcome, and I like your p40 alot
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:05 pm

Welcome,

The P-40 is one of my favorites. Love the custom tank.

"I'm 70 years old but have been a kid all my life."

X2 on that.

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Post  F4D Phantom II Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:05 pm

Hello Bob
I hope to be posting pictures of the finished plane soon.
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Post  944_Jim Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:11 pm

That tank is pure beauty!
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