Prop Rod 2022 (a CEF contest idea)

I'm in if we have until April to run/video/YouTube the runs. I'll need that long to build in 30 minute increments between all the other stuff I'm doing.

I recommend two classes. The first is a single Babe Bee in any frame. The intent is to make this easy for anyone to jump in. Speed is the contest.

The second class is Unlimited. This one is the really interesting one for the "Braggadocios" to entertain us...anything goes.

Or, just like the Engine of the Month contest, vote for fan favorite. If this is the only criteria, then I propose it must be functional, and verified by video. Otherwise we are voting on shelf art. RSV Bob's 3 engine biplanes may be the the winner...if they skate along (yep, pitched because I want to see at least one move )



I'll be watching for the rules. Mine will run.

I'm in too, but I ain't bird dogging the thing. But I will contribute a prize for the winner.

Cribbs74 wrote:As with all contests there needs to be a Contest Director. Are you volunteering Roddie?

No I'm not. I'm sorry if I gave that impression by coming up with this contest idea. Some of you may have noticed that I don't post nearly as much as I used to. My job is about to get VERY busy.. as I have been promoted to Senior CNC operator and I'm told that there's a HUGE amount of work coming.

I would however; gladly give my input on some rules/guidelines.

944_Jim wrote:
I recommend two classes. The first is a single Babe Bee in any frame. The intent is to make this easy for anyone to jump in. Speed is the contest.

Sorry Guys...I'd like to make one change. Strike Baby Bee and replace with "reedie." I don't want to fight a recalcitrant fuel pickup tube on a pusher configuration. I think a cube tank will be easier to manage,.especially if hand built. For those that want to use a Bee, go right ahead as it IS a reedie.

What says CD, and players?

Rules:
We need a line length. I'm not familiar with the Shrike beyond thinking as futuristic as it was, it just didn't grab me as something I just had to have.

Since reedie can also imply a Queen Bee, should we limit displacement? Frankly, I'd like to see a QB do it's thing. I don't have one, so it could be an automatic win. Or the size of the crate it pushes may offset the increases displacement. Again, CD, participants...what say you?

My concern with having a bunch of classes is that we'll stratisfy this so much that there will be more classes and too few entrants per class. That's why I suggested a crowd-favorite, a reedie class, and unlimited. Besides how many prizes are there? Of we did first, second,.third place, that's nine prizes. The first award hasn't been early specified yet. I'm ok with one prize per class, even if we have only one class.

I'm not in it to win...just to have some cheap fun! I want to see whackiest, but I also want to see a well-sorted performer. Fred mentioned rocket assist. Imagine watching that video!

Rules V2: Reedie class, one engine, any construction, any line length,..049-only. Line specs...there ain't one...if your roller skate jumps course, you are disqualified. If your roller skate employs a fixed leadout, then the lead out cannot exceed 3 times the vehicle length (this is to promote vehicle stability only).Video must show line length by walk-through from center of control tower (nail, screw, post) to crankshaft centerline just after the run, regardless of the vehicle stop point...in other words, no stopping video (and switching lines)...rioller skate stops, tape measure starts/completes, video ends. An assistant may be employed to keep the video rolling from at least quantifying laps to measurement. This gives us circumference of run, and timed run for speed evaluation. Fastest 5 laps, so we can use the ones going into the lean burn on fuel exhaustion, and then roll right into the tape measured line quantification. It also allows for tuning the line length for best effect as demonstrated above by Davenz. Video must show clear view of your timer "gate," such as a piece of duct tape a spray-painted line, orange cone just outside the circle, or a one-leg.over pass that clearly shows the vehicle passing under it. This is for counting laps easily. A rolling start is allowed since this isn't for shortest time around a course, but for highest speed achieved. This is intended to keep the videos short. CD must be able to see the vehicle running most of the circle, although the clearly discernable part MUST show the vehicle crossing/passing the gate...the gate does NOT have to be the engine start point, nor does the engine start have to be recorded. In other words, show the fastest laps, and then the line legth proof in the same video. This is to reduce the required CD evaluation effort.

The text-description must be on the YouTube video and must declare your qualifying 5 laps by time within video so CD can just jump to the "money-shots." Example: "This video is my goofball tethered-aircar speed contest entry for the "CEF Cablecar COVID Rally 2022." My line length from pole to crankshaft centerline is (insert legth/meters down to the centimeter). My qualifying laps are from timeframe (start) to time frame (end), for a calculated speed of x.yz meters per second."
I'm recommending metric to draw in the rest of the world, speed to be down to 2 decimal places.

More than one entry per person, but only one video of each entry. In other words, if you want to build/show more than one, have at it

Ok, gents...any fine tuning in reedie class?  We can go for fastest laps only, IF we agree on Gentlemen's terms regarding line length.(reported, not proven). That could make things even easier for CD.

I just watched two videos...we may need a higher lap count in order to have better resolution. Five laps is a blink!

LukeMeister, my concern is that there won't be enough prizes to have a bunch of classes. That's why I broke it down to Reedies and Unlimited. I would love to see any and all creations! We still need to petition/advocate for a CD.

Ron's condensed rules from the previous contest.  They need to be reconciled with Jim's suggestions above.  

Below the rules as discussed between Mark and Lieven:

1) vehicle driving on land and gas powered by a Cox engine (from .010 TD to .15 Conquest)

2) Propeller driven or axle driven

3) 3 categories:

Stock - Cox production cars w/accessories i.e. Cox gas powered car track, fuel cans, packaging etc.

Modified - Cox production cars with customized body/engine. with Cox engine power.

Open class - home built, scratch built, other makes than Cox with Cox engine power.

4) One entry and category submitted per contestant. All categories are show or run. One winner per category by voting.

5) I set a delay at 6 months. That means that entries will be posted on a thread opened on let's say 1 June 2019.

6) Each entry consists of 2 pictures: 1 of the car and 1 of the chassis and engine. For prop driven cars, where the engine is in most cases exposed, the second picture can be a different angle or detail. A video with the car running is a bonus. A back story about the car, owner and where the picture was taken can be added.

There could be a building or restoration thread during wintertime.

I would suggest a tether straight line option also, but this would eliminate the speed/lap factor.  Also define vehicle.....anything on wheels no matter what it resembles.  Anyone up to writing a numbered clearly understandable set of rules like above?  It could be something as simple as run what you brung.

Edit:

How about:

Any Cox engine powered vehicle/contraption running on wheels.

Tether circle circumference set at 30 feet. Prizes for fastest lap and most laps completed.

Straight line tether prizes for weirdest contraption (by popular vote) to complete a minimum of 25 feet and the longest distance traversed.

No classes

Total of four prizes.

KISS - Keep it Simple Stupid....................

Modify as seen fit!