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rsv1cox Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:18 pm

I've been busy, thought I would roll it all into one post. Got the new shed leveled and the work benches moved in from the other garage. Ran electricity under ground through 1/2" PVC pipe sealed. 12 gage feeding 14.

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Open studs so everything is contained with PVC using elbows, T's and boxes.

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Benches fit great. They ran 16 feet in the garage, but I did not use the spacer for the table saw electing just to use it on it's bench moving it to the doorway when ripping is needed. Hard to rip boards when a wall is in your way.

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Still creates a lot of sawdust but the air broom takes it out the front door and it's not getting all over the cars.

The Gilbert Eleven arrived locked up and dirty but I have seen worse. A little heat freed it up but the case end plate is stuck. The spring starter is not broken and the glow plug is good, small mercies.

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The propeller shaft is not broken but they sure made it short. Had to find my narrowest prop to flip it over. Got to find some stronger steel to remove that back plate. The mild steel of Cox and Gilbert wrenches just bends.

Any body ever take apart an Atomic clock......This one has twenty little Phillips screws that hold it together. I really like this particular model. Phases of the moon, inside and outside temperatures, snooze alarms and it even tells time. Or it did. The display is weak, tried new batteries, cleaned the contacts etc. Nothing worked so out of curiosity I took it apart. Printed circuit boards, wire antennas, neat stuff. No serviceable parts inside. Put it back together after cleaning the internal contacts with electrical contact cleaner and now at least I can see the display.....sort of. Smile

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Got the Spad and Corsair kits. I can't see me cutting out all the ribs for the Spad, so it will sit. The Corsair is sealed but I may build it anyway. Not quite the same as my C/L Corsair.

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roddie Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:14 pm

Great stuff Bob! The table-saw.. is your friend.. Laughing

but it can never stay put! Ripping stock seems to always require moving it.

Maybe try the crock-pot/ethylene-glycol soak with the Gilbert? With all them new AC receptacles.. you gotta' have stuff to plug in to em"! I have an 8-outlet strip across the front of my main-bench.. and I love it! It serves two illuminated magnifiers on each side.. and a second "slave" surge-protected 8-outlet strip mounted to the wall.. and a couple 3-wire extension cord-sets hanging on hooks for when I need one.

Does your in internet/wireless-router's signal reach the shed? I'd want that option. How about a fridge, stove and cot? Laughing

Your chest-of-drawers on casters is great! I'm envious! I have two small stationary-bureaus that fit perfectly under my workbench. Keep an eye-out for old bureaus.. especially Maple ones. People throw them away all the time. One small dove-tail jointed drawer can provide enough wood for a lifetime of hardwood-beam mounts for scratch-builds.. and you might not have to move the table-saw to rip them!

Other space-saving tips.. since you've got open-bay studded walls.. you can use 3" cardboard-tubes standing on-end for your long-thin stock.. like music-wire, hardwood/balsa strip-stock.. rolled-plans.. etc. Use shock-cord (bungees) with hooks to hold them against the sheathing between bays. Upper-wall space could be as much pegboard as you can use.. and you can never have enough peg-hooks for stuff. When it's "in your face" daily.. you get to know exactly where stuff is! I hang little zip-seal bags for a lot of various/odd items.. and try to categorize areas by use/function. It's always a WIP.. but it does help when you need to find things.

I utilize ceiling/rafter-storage to the MAX. A ply-box built to fit between a pair of your cross-braces would make a safe-place for probably a dozen kit-boxes.

If yours is to be a total hobby-shed.. consider a drafting table. You could "hinge it" to store up and out of the way.

I have to mention the importance of lighting. There's some new 4' LED shop lights that are marvelous! No flickering or fussing.. they're energy-efficient and they're BRIGHT. They can also be easily daisy-chained.. so there's only one power-outlet needed.

Happy for you Bob! You'll surely enjoy the benefits!

getback Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:31 am

Looking Good Bob , Glad to see your getting things in order Should make you a good place to get out the house and has some building / tinkering FUN , you got insulation coming ? Leaves

rsv1cox Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:19 am

That old bureau has been around roddie. Must be about 100 years old, been in the extended family for years. I have overloaded and abused it in the past so it needed some restoration before being painted yet again.

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I boxed in the studs over the work bench so I won't lose things behind them. I used already stained pine boards salvaged from an old gun rack that I had built. Recycle me.....

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The light above the bench is from an old ceiling fan, 4 60 watt candelabra lamps give adequate light but I may replace with one of the LED's that you mention. My son tried to sell me on those but I bought two florescents for a third of the cost as the main illumination. The shed got it's own circuit breaker, 15 amp as I can only use one tool at a time. Smile

, but if I bring an electric heater out there I would bump it up to a 20. But a good old wood burning pot bellied stove would look great and heavens knows I have enough wood to burn in it. Cozy too.

I haven't made up my mind about insulation, may, may not. I did the loft over the two car garage, Not fun. Then drywall, then Spackle and paint. But the loft is twice the size, so maybe half the aggravation. Would panel too, not drywall. But it's just a shed.

I want to run the Gilbert before I clean it up to much. Got to figure a mount. As mentioned the mounting holes are tapped, I think 2/56. Don't know if machine screws are meant to come up from underneath or down from the top screwed tight and capped at the bottom. Seems silly to me.

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fredvon4 Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:44 am

Bob, this note from within my site built 2 story 16 x 24 barn...a total copy of the Home Depot kit but a bit cheaper...
that I insulated and sheet rocked after electrics were set.

last year I had a off site built 14 x 30 lofted barn set on my property to be set up as a true wood working shop with the larger (mostly Grizzly sourced) tools

That said, in this airplane barn/shop I still have my small form factor: Drill press, scroll saw, band saw, belt / disk sander, and the Dremel Router table....dust and chip control is still a pain so next year all that is going to be moved to the wood shop also

Back when we built the airplane barn it was originally for my wife's quilting hobby and I ceiling mounted 4ea 8 foot twin tube fluorescents

When I did the lighting for the newer wood work lofted barn....Lowes and Home depot started carrying the LED replacement bulbs for 4 foot fixtures (you have to bypass the ballast((easy to do))... I really really like them

To do this winter.... my version of a box fan powered down draft sanding table

Final thought....I wish I was smarter on BOTH shops and BEFORE moving a thing in, layed down edge to edge linoleum floor...with full sheet or tiles.... raw wood, or painted wood (what I have) is a royal pain to sweep or vacuum

rsv1cox Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:07 pm

Thanks Fred, I was just looking at Ian's workshop thread with pictures of his and your workshops. This little 10X16 shed is pretty small potatoes in comparison to those pictures but it suits my needs. I was thinking about tile or laminate flooring similar to the scrap that I used on the workbenches tops, but I already had an upgraded composite floor installed when I ordered the shed so will go with that.

I thought that the Gilbert's bearers were tapped 2/56 but they are actually 3/48. I have found a suitable mount that I can use with it but the threads are also 3/48. Not wanting to drill out either, I'm stuck..... Sad

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ian1954 Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:23 pm

rsv1cox wrote:Thanks Fred, I was just looking at Ian's workshop thread with pictures of his and your workshops. This little 10X16 shed is pretty small potatoes in comparison to those pictures but it suits my needs. I was thinking about tile or laminate flooring similar to the scrap that I used on the workbenches tops, but I already had an upgraded composite floor installed when I ordered the shed so will go with that.

My workshop will be roughly 12' x 10' so it isn't as large as yours and wouldn't take a decent table saw. Well it would but I would have to limbo dance with 8x4 sheets and waltz with the saw!

rsv1cox Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:47 pm

ian1954 wrote:
rsv1cox wrote:Thanks Fred, I was just looking at Ian's workshop thread with pictures of his and your workshops. This little 10X16 shed is pretty small potatoes in comparison to those pictures but it suits my needs. I was thinking about tile or laminate flooring similar to the scrap that I used on the workbenches tops, but I already had an upgraded composite floor installed when I ordered the shed so will go with that.

My workshop will be roughly 12' x 10' so it isn't as large as yours and wouldn't take a decent table saw. Well it would but I would have to limbo dance with 8x4 sheets and waltz with the saw!

Yes, but it's what's in it Ian that counts. Your lathe alone would buy and sell my shed and everything in it. Like your garden visible outside the window, quality beats quanity every time.

Fred's too. Seems like I see a jointer/planer in there along with an extended table saw, dust collection system and a real nice band saw. All good stuff guys.

I can't cut anything using a fence on my table saw over 12 inches with my el cheapo Task Force table saw which is why I just had to use a circular saw to rip a piece of OSB board @ 21" for a tool rack to fit between the studs in the shed. My band saw is a $40 flea market buy. My father always had nice wood working equipment as does my brother. I can afford quality tools but I just don't. But I use the heck out of what I have. The improvements that I have made to the house and outbuildings over the last six years is significant.

Bob

rsv1cox Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:45 am

I just had to do it. Smile

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fredvon4 Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:52 am

Strafing run to put the "juicy" in some candy?

No photos, but I strategically posed a few of my "not to be flown again" planes in my shops... you would be amazed at how often I have to clean off the dust and cobwebs.... but I still have times when I just kick back... stare at one, and relive (in my mind) the fun/grief of building it, and perhaps some of the memories of the flights (if any)

Hey Bob.... I don't know why I did NOT do it (in the wood shop) but a feature of the fully insulated /rocked airplane shop is the Kilz primer White walls and ceiling.... I was too anxious to move into the new wood shop and left it like yours... some day, when ambitious, I need to move everything out, and use a airless sprayer to shoot the entire interior WHITE

To me this makes a huge difference in HOW much light I need to make these deteriorating eyes see fine detail

I also wish the sheets of perf board for tool hanging had been bought (for a few bucks more) in white

Another thought is...I am sort of anal now about nice labeling of compartments to know what is where

Brother sells real cheap labelers and they do this because the Tape cassettes are freakin expensive

That said...one 3/4" at 26 feet long cassette along with the included trial cassette (NOT 26' long) is more than enough to label every drawer and bin

I suggest Staples on line as best price and shipping with frequent huge discounts...I replaced a dead one just last week with a Brother PT-D600 ( PC connected) for a ridiculous price of $54 free shipping

rsv1cox Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:13 pm

Yup, I knew this one would get the same cobweb/sawdust treatment too so I selected my most trashy model. Hanging it wasn't without incident though as the string slipped through my fingers and it crashed to the floor breaking the prop and the front landing gear. Maybe by looking at it every day now it will get some attention.

I'm not a big fan of that Masonite pegboard preferring to make my own.

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I just hang tools common to everyday tasks, hate looking through draws when I can make them handy. Got a start on the shed's.

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The screwdrivers will be located inside the boxed back splash and the panel hung somewhat above them with cabinets like these I built in the two car garage located above. I made them out of leftover l1011 siding that I used to panel the inside of the garage.

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But you did give me food for thought. I was going to paint the backboards and cabinets grey to match the benches, but an off-white would brighten things up a bit. Like you, my eyesight isn't what it used to be (not much body wise is Sad

) Went to the eye doc last week and am scheduled for cataract surgery and clear lens extraction.

Bob

rsv1cox Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:13 pm

It's a start.

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getback Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:26 am

Bob i like the way you think wish i could get myself to do something for me once in a while , i got soooo many projects going on or in stale mate i don't know what to do next Leaves

O heah leaves and black walnuts Pumpkin

fredvon4 Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:56 am

Looking good Bob

I am dense and don't see how you hung the tools on your home made tool board

Just curious cuz I have too many pieces of perf board to use

My problem, with setting up shops, is usually finding the final "best" location for a thing like the Table saw, or harder..the big band saw...in the too small shop.

Then once that is done, organizing those tool specific attachments and common frequent uses tools within easy reach..think push sticks, fences, sleds, or as simple as the sweep brush.... etc

Oldenginerod Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:33 pm

I'm making no promises about completion dates or future use, but I have this project on the go.

New gateway & driveway in.
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Shed site levelled and post-holes bored
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Going to be a 10Mt X 10Mt timber barn. Big chunky timber poles and vertical timber cladding. Somewhere for all the local spiders to hang out, I'm sure. Laughing

No plans for power at this stage, just storage in the first instance. Somewhere to park my old tractors and cars out of the weather. I can see a few planes hanging from the roof like Bob's. First bit of decoration will be a (full size) wooden propeller I found amongst my brother's stuff. I'm sure it will end up with a few old oil and spark plug comnpany signs etc.
Down the track I may install a loft for the hobby work and look at alternative power sources like solar, battery storage and an inverter.
Too much garden to dig up to put power on, unless I string it above ground.

Still gotta get all that firewood cut.
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rsv1cox Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:24 am

fredvon4 wrote:Looking good Bob

I am dense and don't see how you hung the tools on your home made tool board

Just curious cuz I have too many pieces of perf board to use

My problem, with setting up shops, is usually finding the final "best" location for a thing like the Table saw, or harder..the big band saw...in the too small shop.

Then once that is done, organizing those tool specific attachments and common frequent uses tools within easy reach..think push sticks, fences, sleds, or as simple as the sweep brush.... etc

Drywall screws Fred. The previous owner left buckets of them here from when he had the house built in 2006. They are self tapping with countersunk heads and if you adjust them carefully they retain the tools securely while letting them be removed easily.

I use old OSB boards mounted on 1X1" stringers for the back plates left over from when I had the garage/breezeway constructed. This lets the tools be recessed within the studs without the back board touching the back walls. Nothing fancy, just functional. I use the same scheme in my other workshops too. I hate fumbling for tools in draws. 90% of what I do can be done using tools from the boards.

I need to make two more, one for woodworking clamps, the other for various handsaws. Down sides are, I have to keep buying duplicate tools or I have to run from shop to shop to get the tool I need. Smile

Bob

rsv1cox Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:29 am

[quote="Oldenginerod"]I'm making no promises about completion dates or future use, but I have this project on the go.

New gateway & driveway in.
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Shed site levelled and post-holes bored

Going to be a 10Mt X 10Mt timber barn. Big chunky timber poles and vertical timber cladding. Somewhere for all the local spiders to hang out, I'm sure. Laughing

No plans for power at this stage, just storage in the first instance. Somewhere to park my old tractors and cars out of the weather. I can see a few planes hanging from the roof like Bob's. First bit of decoration will be a (full size) wooden propeller I found amongst my brother's stuff. I'm sure it will end up with a few old oil and spark plug comnpany signs etc.
Down the track I may install a loft for the hobby work and look at alternative power sources like solar, battery storage and an inverter.
Too much garden to dig up to put power on, unless I string it above ground.

Still gotta get all that firewood cut.

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Beautiful country Rod, love your hedges.

Ambitious project. It seems like we never have enough space to store our stuff. Looking forward to seeing more about it.

Bob

rsv1cox Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:00 pm

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Hopefully it will keep skunks and other varmints from crawling under there and dying. Maybe I should back it up with chicken wire. Spikes favorite place to go too. Sorry Spike.

One quarter done. Under doors will be filled in with some sort of deck/platform. Begs for flowers.....come-on Spring.

Bob

Oldenginerod Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:28 am

Well I had an interesting development. The site for my shed has 16 holes bored for the main uprights. They vary between 900mm (3') and 1,800mm (6') deep. As you'll see from the picture, I put safety tape around the perimeter to warn any local neighbourhood kids of the danger.
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I did think that I may have to keep an eye on the holes periodically to ensure no local pets wandered in and fell down a hole (I don't expect any animals to acknowletge the safety tape). Well last night's inspection greeted me with a forlorn and bedraggled Magpie stuck down a 15" diameter hole around 5' down. Our Magpies are different to your American variety. Around 15"-16" in length. Due to the emergency nature of the situation, I got no photos. Downloaded this one.
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He wasn't too healthy, having worn himself out trying to flutter up the hole, and had possibly been exposed to quite a bit of overnight rain. What to do? Huh...

Try a shovel- no good. Garden fork? (No, not to impale him!!) He was too weak to hang on.
Soooo, I found an old plastic planter pot and zip-tied it to a garden stake, cut about 1/3 of the side out, leaving the full round bottom in place. I had enough room to slide it down past him as he huddled to one side, slid the base under him and gave him his first Magpie Elevator ride. He took off running as his wings were all muddy and probably a little stiff from being cramped up so long. He raced off into the neighbour's with other "Maggies" attacking him (as they do to the weaker ones) but happily I can report that today we saw him back foraging in the garden for worms and quite able to fly again, identified by the heavy red clay stains to his white feathers.
Ah, I've scored a few points with the tree-huggers this time.
lol!

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