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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:57 am

Ken Cook wrote:The laser cut kits use wood much lighter than the kit w I'm assuming the fuse covers the bolt?

Hey Ken,
The bellcrank bolt appears to be just outside the fuse. Gonna watch a You Tube video a guy has posted on it's building.
It'll probably sound stupid to many here, but I sure would like a step-by-step set of instructions to keep me from having back up and re-do something I overstep.
One way or the other, gonna start on the wing today!
Sometimes Fairly Dense Kim
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  fredvon4 on Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:04 pm

Kim I know what you mean about step by step hand holding... I am a non standard man.... I read instructions, religiously, three to five times before I start,  and it bugs my wife to no end...she is one of the rare, jump in and "make it up as you go" women assemblers of all things in a box...and this drives me absurdly berserk!

I personalty do not like the built up C or D tube leading edges as real fiddly and mandatory perfect straight wood,
Preferring the solid pre shaped LE

It is good design, just not my skill set preferred ----mostly ----cuz I suck at accurately gluing down long areas. And I refuse to use pins... another story

All that said... drive on ....I have seem many of your other models and this is not much diff...
Build the wing center, do the out board wing tip, then fuss with learning how to create the adjustable lead out inner wing tip

If that section is elusive, go to stunt hanger and search for adjustable lead outs----- and just look at all the various methods... lots of little AH HA! lights in your head will pop, and I bet you find your own unique way to skin that cat

The top and bottom supported Bell Crank Axle is so obvious, I am not real sure why the old time method of one ply plate was ever considered.... I mean, damn it! The BC is centered inside the wing...Why not support it Top AND Bottom?..total weight gain in .15 and larger models is negligible.... IMO a single ply plate in 1/2a is adequate because of the light weights and forces...

Hell, way back in 1973 building combat Mongeese, or VooDoos, I always added a top ply plate to carry the Bell crank load

Now here is a suggestion, because I do NOT like the through Bolt and Nut out side of the wing center skin as shown on your plan

I cut a section of proper sized music wire a little long for the Bell crank Axel and once all is built up and before Center section sheeting, I dremel off the excess wire flush ( or nearly) to the two ply plates ...always a little stub a little proud of the top and bottom ply plate.... as I sheet the center with balsa, I dollop a bit of epoxy on the proud axle stub and press the balsa center sheeting down flush

Hint two---- the Ring Master needs the Bell Crank linkage in the very closest hole to the Axel ---and down on the furthest hole away from the Elevator hinge line....slowing and limiting total throw of the controls as much as possible is desired...   a fast elevator with a lot of deflection causes very easy stalls


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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:46 pm

Thanks Fred,

Gonna check out some other installations as you suggested. I had thought about the piano wire/pin deal with the bellcrank, but was hesitant at changing things around. I may do that once the frame is glued up.

Got it all lined up and ready for some CA...just going to take a walk down the road and back to clear my brain a bit.
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Sunday on Breezy Hill

Post  Kim on Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:18 am

Cruised up to Breezy Hill yesterday for some C/L flying.  Pretty light day with four or five members showing up through the day.

Leo came out for some more tweaking of his fleet of Ringmasters for the Fly-a-Thon.  He was averaging about 8 laps per tank-full with his Fox .15 versions, and wants to nail it down closer, so will be taking their tank size down to 1/4 oz and working from there.  The boy is serious!















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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Ken Cook on Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:16 pm

Kim, I have a real addiction for the Fox .15 steelfin and slant plug. The OK .149 is another one I enjoy. Great engines for those period planes.
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:03 pm

GOT to love 11th-Hour project work!!!

My mighty S-1 Ringmaster gets it's suit of fancy mylar for it's debut at the World Wide Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon this Saturday at Breezy Hill!!!!

Gonna bend it some landing gear so it can stand on it's own, and then start installing 'The Noisy Parts'

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Post  Ken Cook on Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:23 pm

Kim, that's a great color scheme. It looks great. Ken
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:31 pm

Ken Cook wrote:          Kim, that's a great color scheme. It looks great. Ken

Thanks Ken !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:32 pm

I like it too. Really nice scheme Kim.

Now tighten up that wingtip Wink
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:09 am

Coming down to it!

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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  roddie on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:33 am

Your S-1 looks terrific in those colors Kim! Nice trim-scheme! I bought similar-color paints for my Tee-33-Dee for a "Blue-Angels" theme, if I ever finish it.. Rolling Eyes



The model was supposed to compete in the CEF 2016 Speed Contest which allowed the use of Tee Dee engines.

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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:40 pm

Thanks Roddie !!!!!
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Marleysky on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:08 pm

Kim, looks real good.  Are those colors the same as the standard pt19?

Just watched your PT-19 u tube. cOOL!  How long ago was this?  You LOOPED the Pt-19, multiple times......you should get an award, an Emmy or something!  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1QD625kt0FA
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  getback on Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:43 am

That does look very nice Kim, what's the power going to bee ? Babe Bee .049 This Site Rocks!
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Ken Cook on Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:16 pm

I had a great time participating with the Rings today. Mine does quite well with the Blackhead Combat Special. Loud, Fast and fun. I got in some good flights between my son and I. I built it in 85 and she's still going strong. Many many repairs of the years. While the picture does it some justice, it's horrid up close. https://www.facebook.com/PhillyFliersCL/photos/pcb.1672058339530960/1672058042864323/?type=3&theater
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  fredvon4 on Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:23 pm

Sean McEntee and I got several RM flights in this morning before the soccer teams arrived from church

Beautiful 59~72 F morning, no wind, very bright sun...thankful for low/no wind

Son could not make it...bummer.

He is pulling 6 tens and got home late last night so I did not pester him to come play with dad

Also bummer---- I did not fly the RH baby RM Bi-plane... Medallion just would not cooperate... proly crud in the NVA

I just ..I mean JUST got a new Samsung Galaxy S8+ and do not have a good glass screen protector.... NO way I was touching it with Glow fuel hands...

Great time was had and Cen Texas has contributed yet again
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  fredvon4 on Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:25 pm

BTW Kim...I really like the RM and colors you did...great looking plane
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Post  Kim on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:40 am

Marleysky wrote:Kim, looks real good.  Are those colors the same as the standard pt19?

Just watched your PT-19 u tube. cOOL!  How long ago was this?  You LOOPED the Pt-19, multiple times......you should get an award, an Emmy or something!  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1QD625kt0FA

Thank You Marleysky!

The colors were supposed to be yellow and purple! Kinda missed that, but still I like it.

The looping PT-19 video is from about three years ago...I think. Funny note about that is that I looped my QZ-19 (without muffler) back when I was 14, but always laid low when I'd get lectures from experts about how "Those plastic planes aren't good for anything but going in circles" !!!!

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Post  Kim on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am

fredvon4 wrote:BTW Kim...I really like the RM and colors you did...great looking plane

Thank you Fred !!!
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Re: The 2017 International Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is History!!!

Post  Kim on Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:13 pm

Well, the Breezy Hill World-Wide Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon is now history!!!

It was a learning experience is just HOW much wind a guy could handle!  On Saturday, we had gusts upward of 50mph, which kindly seemed to limit themselves to our breaks: just scattering potato chips and our cupcakes across the pavilion.  Winds through the day maintained at about 35-40mph, with occasional moments of spooky calmness.

I left home on Sunday morning in a steady rain, fully intending to go there for the sole purpose of calling off the Fly-a-Thon 'till the following Sunday.  I arrived at Breezy Hill with partly cloudy skys, a gentle breeze, and Leo already turning circles on his 16th Official Flight.  He KEPT flying through the day, logging a total of 201--YES---201 flights! The rest of us chipped in to take the total to 250 fights.

Here's my report to John Cralley:

2017 World-Wide Ringmaster Fly-a-Thon Report
Breezy Hill Flyers
Chester, Illinois
October 7th & 8th

Seven Pilots Participated:
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Saturday October 7th
Billy Lang...........................Jr. Ringmaster..................................20 Flights

Kim Stricker.....................Super Ringmaster............................. 6 Flights

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Sunday October 8th
Leo Edler.............................S-1 Ringmaster.............................. 110 Flights
..............................................Jr. Ringmaster.............................10 Flights
..............................................Jr. Ringmaster..............................80 Flights
.............................................Beginners Ringmaster......................1 Flight

Billy Lang............................Jr. Ringmaster.....................................5 Flights
..............................................Baby Ringmaster.............................5 Flights

Ronnie Shemonic*............Beginners Ringmaster...............................2 Flights

Steven L Jany*.................Beginners Ringmaster...............................2 Flights

Darryl Wilson*.................Beginners Ringmaster................................2 Flights

Patrick Farrow.................Beginners Ringmaster.................................1 Flight

Kim Stricker.....................Beginners Rigmaster Bipe...........................1 Flight
............................................Super Ringmaster................................3 Flights
............................................RSM S-1 Ringmaster.............................2 Flights
                                                  -------------
                                               250 Flights Total

*First time flyers.


Kim Stricker
Billy Lang
Leo Edler
Darryl Wilson
Steven L. Jany
Patrick Farow
Ronnie Shemonic

2017flyathon@ringmasterflyathon.com
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Leo Edler's Ringmasters

110 Flights:
S-1 RSM Kit, with an O.S. 20FP turning an APC 10x3 prop.  Using a Jim Lee .235 venturi with one side blocked off with a sliver of hardwood, which choked down the engine to fly on 38ft lines.Fuel tank is a 1/4oz Kap-Pak Brand that gives about six laps.  

10 Flights:
Pat King Junior Ringmaster Trainer with a slab wing.  With a Fox Steel Fin .15, spinning an APC 9x3 prop, and with one side of it's veturi blocked with a sliver of hardwood to detune the Fox and allow flying on 38ft lines.  Fuel tank is a 1/4oz Perfect Brand tank that gives 7-8 laps.

80 Flights:
Junior Ringmaster Traner slab wing being pulled by an Enya.15 MkIII, with one side of the venturi blocked by a hardwood sliver.  Using an APC 9x3 cut down to 8 3/4, and drawing fuel from a 1/4oz Perfect Brand tank for 7-8 laps on 38ft lines.

1 Flight:
Baby Ringmaster scratch built, powered by a Cox Babe Bee .049.

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Billy's Ringmasters:

20 Flights:
Junior Ringmaster, a severely modified 'Swap-Meet Orphan' that Billy adopted at the Columbia Swap-Meet last year.  Rebuilt back to stock status, it's powered by an Enya .15-IV.

5 Flights:
2 Baby Ringmasters, each scratch-built, each with Cox Black Widows, flying on 35ft lines.

Baby Ringmaster, Cox
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Kim's Ringmasters:

9 Flights:
Super Ringmaster, another 'Swap-Meet Orphan', bought at the Columbia Swap-Meet several years ago.  Refinished (and rebuilt after a crash), it's powered by a Fox .35, turning a Master Airscrew 10-6 prop.  Tank size is un-remembered, but is small for it's application. Flys on 60ft lines.

2 Flights:
RSM S-1, finished the day before the 2017 Fly-a-Thon.  Fuel tank is a 3 1/2oz RSM uniflow tank.  Fuseage and tail are finished with Brodak Dope, with the wing covered by MonoKote.  Flys on 60ft lines.

1 Flight:
Beginners Ringmaster Biplane---Pat King slab wing kit .  Engine is a backplate Cox .049 with a 1/2oz tank and a Cox Brand 5x3 prop.  Flys on 35ft lines.

























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Post  fredvon4 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:33 pm

KIm

Where did the small BHOR decal on the rudder come from? I only got large ones from them. Did not see a small size
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Post  Kim on Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:38 pm

fredvon4 wrote:KIm

Where did the small BHOR decal on the rudder come from?  I only got large ones from them. Did not see a small size

I just printed them in different sizes on photo paper and stuff'm on with tape. Not too durable, but good for a little bit !!!
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Post  fredvon4 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:09 pm

About what I thought... I scoured Ring site for quite a bit looking for the dinky ones

Thanks Kim
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Post  Kim on Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:49 am

And we got a new record !!!

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Post  getback on Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:25 am

cheers Beer Cheers cheers Man that's some great stuff to hear , one heck of alot of flights for 2 days !! Thanks for the pic's and info Kim , looks like you guys had a really fun time !! sunny It's been so hectic here for the last few weeks i didn't even get my BRM put back together confused Stated on the well wing for a trainer ring but is as far as i got was to cut it out . Way to go guys !! Airplane
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