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Post  Hujsek Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:39 pm

Can anyone help me. I'm looking for throtle for Cox Tee Dee 0.10 which is on YouTube under the name 862mx.Link as a new user I can not paste yet

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Post  1/2A Nut Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:32 pm

Like this?


simple air choke using the existing NV

Or do you mean this mass of brass bolts and nuts:

Down fall too heavy and bulky.



Low weight option you can make a sleeve type exhaust throttle



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Post  Hujsek Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:09 pm

That is. I thought of the throttle from video No.1
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Post  Surfer_kris Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:01 pm

The first one is just a cold-start choke...
The exhaust throttles are usually a better option.
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Post  Hujsek Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:18 am

I know but I'm still looking for a throttle from the first video
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Post  1/2A Nut Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:21 am

That was hand made you would have to fabricate one from a small block of aluminum.
Currently there is no RC carb on the market for the TD .010 and .020 perhaps soon
there is a design Greg had drawn up the TD .010 is so small a air choke throttle would
allow easy transformation by the end user. The throttle sleeve type would require grinding
off or filing down the cylinder flange in order to slide on the throttle sleeve.

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Post  Hujsek Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:08 am

I know that there are no factory carburettors for these engines, so I am trying to find the one who made the carburettor from the first video through this forum. Maybe I can negotiate to create one for me.
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Post  Hujsek Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:44 am

I bought Cox .049 Sure Start Throttle Conversion to install it on Tee Dee. I cut the plastic tube, but it's still too big for this engine. So I'm looking for the option to buy a smaller cold -start choke.
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:24 am

I wonder when watching video 1, if it is a piece that is attached to the original venturi, or is it a whole piece that includes the thread that screws in the crankcase?
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Post  Hujsek Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:52 am

MauricioB wrote:I wonder when watching video 1, if it is a piece that is attached to the original venturi, or is it a whole piece that includes the thread that screws in the crankcase?

I have a feeling that it is attached to the original venturi tube, although it is also possible that it is done with a new thread. In any case, the fuel supply is under the hood.
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:14 pm

Hujsek wrote:
MauricioB wrote:I wonder when watching video 1, if it is a piece that is attached to the original venturi, or is it a whole piece that includes the thread that screws in the crankcase?

I have a feeling that it is attached to the original venturi tube, although it is also possible that it is done with a new thread. In any case, the fuel supply is under the hood.

Yes, I agree, the fuel supply is the original, it is below the air strangulation.
If the air strangulation is up and independent of the original venturi, it is possible that the venturi itself has been modified to make it fit into the upper part, so that this square block can not move to the original venturi, it can also that there is a pair of very small screws below that fit the original venturi.
There is not much space, practically nothing to put a joint tube, would intercede in the propeller.
It is likely that at some point I will try something here!
I wrote to the author of the video, but he did not answer me yet
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Post  Hujsek Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:19 pm

I do not think a venturi tube appears on the top of the manufactured trottle. So I would say that the original venturi tube is under the flap, because the air intake for the fuel is very small, but I do not know how it is mounted on the original tube. We are waiting for the author's response .
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Post  1/2A Nut Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:21 pm

Greg can make these easy enough. Shamrock
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:20 pm

1/2A Nut wrote:Greg can make these easy enough. Shamrock

Great friend ... and ... what Greg thinks? Smile
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Post  gkamysz Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:53 pm

I won't run out of things to dream up. However, designing them to be cost effective to produce, let alone in a price range that makes sense is what's tricky. It seems some people are OK with just a choke type throttle and this may work. Others want to see air bleed or metering carbs. I'm working on the .020 design and if it works shouldn't be difficult to translate to .010. However, this is still some time out.

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Post  Tee Bee Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Awesome! I have seen a lot of interest in .010 throttles over the years on all the related forums I dabble with. There is definitely a market there, to efficiently throttle the smallest Cox TD seems to be a dream for many.
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:46 pm

gkamysz wrote:I won't run out of things to dream up. However, designing them to be cost effective to produce, let alone in a price range that makes sense is what's tricky. It seems some people are OK with just a choke type throttle and this may work. Others want to see air bleed or metering carbs. I'm working on the .020 design and if it works shouldn't be difficult to translate to .010. However, this is still some time out.

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If Greg, I understand you perfectly, we are many and at the same time we are few, that is, to manufacture in series we are few, to meet and unite passions, we are many and everything leads us to evaluate if something is possible to make it happen.
That is why in different parts of the world ideas and creations appear, each one trying to achieve its mission.
I am interested in the .010 driver, since, to make a ring, you have to work on the cylinder or make the extra extra. In contrast to the .020, as there are different types of cylinders, it is possible to solve the problem with a ring and finished matter, anyway, if you carry out a development, I believe that for those of us here we will be safe candidates.
Thank you for your dedication, we love this line of hobby, we are surely very hopeful in its development. Thanks again. Thumbs Up
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Post  Hujsek Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:56 am

I have now ordered a new Venturi tube. I will install the flap according to Greg's drawing and put it to made it on a CNC machine, then I will solder on a venturi tube and I hope it will work Smile
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Post  MauricioB Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:58 pm

Hujsek wrote:I have now ordered a new Venturi tube. I will install the flap according to Greg's drawing and put it to made it on a CNC machine, then I will solder on a venturi tube and I hope it will work Smile

It will be interesting to see your work and results, I wish you good luck !! ... Thumbs Up
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Post  Hujsek Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:58 am

MauricioB wrote:
Hujsek wrote:
MauricioB wrote:I wonder when watching video 1, if it is a piece that is attached to the original venturi, or is it a whole piece that includes the thread that screws in the crankcase?

I have a feeling that it is attached to the original venturi tube, although it is also possible that it is done with a new thread. In any case, the fuel supply is under the hood.

Yes, I agree, the fuel supply is the original, it is below the air strangulation.
If the air strangulation is up and independent of the original venturi, it is possible that the venturi itself has been modified to make it fit into the upper part, so that this square block can not move to the original venturi, it can also that there is a pair of very small screws below that fit the original venturi.
There is not much space, practically nothing to put a joint tube, would intercede in the propeller.
It is likely that at some point I will try something here!
I wrote to the author of the video, but he did not answer me yet


Did the author of the recording already answer?


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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:45 am

Hujsek wrote:
MauricioB wrote:
Hujsek wrote:
MauricioB wrote:I wonder when watching video 1, if it is a piece that is attached to the original venturi, or is it a whole piece that includes the thread that screws in the crankcase?

I have a feeling that it is attached to the original venturi tube, although it is also possible that it is done with a new thread. In any case, the fuel supply is under the hood.

Yes, I agree, the fuel supply is the original, it is below the air strangulation.
If the air strangulation is up and independent of the original venturi, it is possible that the venturi itself has been modified to make it fit into the upper part, so that this square block can not move to the original venturi, it can also that there is a pair of very small screws below that fit the original venturi.
There is not much space, practically nothing to put a joint tube, would intercede in the propeller.
It is likely that at some point I will try something here!
I wrote to the author of the video, but he did not answer me yet


Did the author of the recording already answer?



No, I have not received an answer .... Huh...
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Post  Hujsek Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:04 am

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The tape flap is finished and installed. It's over the venturi. I did not have time to try the flaphow it works. I apologize for the bad images because they are made with the phone
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Post  Hujsek Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:24 am

Why do not images remain in the publication ??????
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Post  1/2A Nut Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:57 am

Must have not been posted correctly.
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Post  MauricioB Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:14 am

Hujsek wrote:Cox Tee Dee 0.10 Img20180424075930

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The tape flap is finished and installed. It's over the venturi. I did not have time to try the flaphow it works. I apologize for the bad images because they are made with the phone

Hello, I could see the photos from copying the link and place it in the browser, inside the forum (in my case) I can not see them.
Good job, friend, I'm waiting for a video of your creation! Thumbs Up
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