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Post  rsv1cox Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:07 pm

Mail day today, 2 matched early Black Widows. ebay $36.  

One Cox 0.20 Pee Wee, great shape. ebay $32.00

One vintage Cox fuel can.  Veteran - from my son.  Found at my daughter-in-laws grandfathers garage, second one from there.  Rough. Sandblasted top and bottom.  Missing cover. Replaced insert with a new one, cleaned, polished with Howards wax.  Glow fuel cans, can engines be far behind. Huh...

Thirteen Cox Babe Bees from the BIN ebay auction that Jacob posted about a week or so ago, plus one NIP Surestart.

Plus Cox .020 parts from Bernie.  Amazing fast from Canada.  There is a 0.20 wrench in there plus the hubs and buttons needed to complete my 0.20 tether airplane.  

Still waiting on .049 parts (needles, case screws, glow heads, etc.) from Matt to complete these engines.  Glow heads have gone crazy, 3 for $29 from Matt, 3 for $45 from MECOA.  

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Trash to some, but I enjoy making these look like new again, and running them.  Each one tells a story, and if you know where to look, that story unfolds.
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Post  Marleysky Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:18 pm

Great Finds there Bob. The BB with the Green Rubber Spinner is a "hard to find" item. Only used on the Lime Green Shrike as far as I know.

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What method of Quick cleaning do you use in Large quanity cleaning? I know you use Simple Green and Berrymans carb cleaner. Do you have a prefrence of one over the other?
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Post  balogh Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:41 am

I hauled a similar old stock BB and an almost new PW for a ridiculous amount some years ago from ebay. The BB is a bit battered on its black anodization but a terrific runner. Those old stock stuff of COX is indestructible...
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:07 am

@balogh wrote:I hauled a similar old stock BB and an almost new PW for a ridiculous amount some years ago from ebay. The BB is a bit battered on its black anodization but a terrific runner. Those old stock stuff of COX is indestructible...


I thought of you when I got those 0.20 parts because your perhaps the biggest Cox Inc, and Cox engines booster here on the forum.  Pilgramages to the old Cox facilities etc.

These engines, 0.10 and 0.20 are so tiny you could mount one on a ring.  You could, but that's impractical.  But a glow head?  Now that's a different story. Get a jeweler to build a base and mount one on a silver finger ring.  Maybe it's been done.  Heck, do three.

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Lot's of artists over there in Hungary.
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:19 am

@Marleysky wrote:Great Finds there Bob. The BB with the Green Rubber Spinner is a "hard to find" item. Only used on the Lime Green Shrike as far as I know.

What method of Quick cleaning do you use in Large quanity cleaning? I know you use Simple Green and Berrymans carb cleaner. Do you have a prefrence of one over the other?

Simple Green will turn aluminum black if left over a few hours.  A/F boil is best to loosen and clean. Parts cleaner works well and quickly, but will not loosen. All will lighten anodizing.  The last few that I have done was using Parts cleaner, then loosen with a heat gun.  With locked up engines, I prefer an A/F boil, hold while hot with a leather glove then loosen the case screws, glow head, and cylinder, then dump in diluted Simple Green and tooth brush clean.  Fully disassemble, rinse in hot water, then alcohol and flood with Remoil then a compressed air blowout. Re assemble, add a drop of after-run if stored.

Alcohol - Important. Just when you think you have an engine hot water rinsed and perfectly clean, place it's parts in alcohol and shake it up a little and watch the tiny pieces of dirt appear.
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:40 am

I finished cleaning all those engines that I pictured above. Curious bunch, all had been previously cleaned just showing shop/storage wear, no castor or left over fuel in the tanks but parts were missing mostly prop nuts and needles all coming from Bernie and Matt.

Sellers ebay pictures that Jacob linked me to:

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Thought it would be fun if after clean-up I put the cleaned up engines back on the pictures as they were arrainged only clean.

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At the same time I bought two Black Widows, new engines a best buy at $18 each.

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Post  Levent Suberk Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:11 am

Perfect work. Real craftsmanship.
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Post  getback Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:17 am

Shiny !! Those BBs look Nice now , Good job on the clean up I believe you have it down pat . Thumbs Up
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Post  NEW222 Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:31 am

Awesome job. A really nice touch of the before and after clean-up pictures arranged as they were in the ad.
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Post  balogh Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:31 am

@rsv1cox wrote:
@balogh wrote:I hauled a similar old stock BB and an almost new PW for a ridiculous amount some years ago from ebay. The BB is a bit battered on its black anodization but a terrific runner. Those old stock stuff of COX is indestructible...


I thought of you when I got those 0.20 parts because your perhaps the biggest Cox Inc, and Cox engines booster here on the forum.  Pilgramages to the old Cox facilities etc.

These engines, 0.10 and 0.20 are so tiny you could mount one on a ring.  You could, but that's impractical.  But a glow head?  Now that's a different story. Get a jeweler to build a base and mount one on a silver finger ring.  Maybe it's been done.  Heck, do three.

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Thanks Bob, I somehow overlooked your post addressed to me ..Not a bad idea with the rings, though I do not really carry any jewellery.. Smile
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:14 pm

Thanks guys.  They do all sparkle now due mostly to a dunk in parts cleaner and turning the fuel tanks on my drill press with 400 grit and fine steel wool.  Does wonders, just enough to resemble factory new.  Jacob doesn't know it but he gave me hours of pleasure restoring them.  

Love this picture.  The stories it could tell.  Wear shows a landing gear pattern like you would see if it were mounted on a Walt Musciano hollow log.  I recognize it from long ago.  Check that home made venturi screen on an early back plate.  

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I read each backplate and engine.  You can tell their history from those images.  Rookie flyer or veteran, mechanic or shop jockey.  Many had tool marks, others were well kept.  All appreciated by me.
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:39 am

Just for the fun of it, I contacted the seller:

Hi, I'm just curious. I collect Cox engines and found these clean and well cared for. I cleaned them all and they will go in my display case. Just wondering, were they yours and about their history? Best regards - Bob

His reply

hi yes all were mine some i build out of parts and some i bought new i trained kids how to fly from the 80s and i got some for my self back in the 70s when i just started to fly i used to love 1/2as there easy to fix and they keep going i sill have 30 of them black widow and golden bee and tee dee the tee dee i use for competition the othere are put up till i need them

Will have to see if he will join the forum.

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Hi Edwin, Yes, there has been a lot of discussion about that on the Cox engine forum. If you joined I think you would like it. Bob

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hi did you know if you dill out the black widow tank ventury just a smer bigger it will prefom just like a viper and change the piston and cylinder to a 051 with timing shims
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:52 am

Cox International's parts arrived. Red spinner for the 0.20 tether plane and five needles. Plus #5's, always running out of them.

Can't have mismatched spinners.

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And these engines have finally found a home. Now with new needles all except one will run. Exception has a bent something.

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Post  Coxfledgling Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:04 pm

It's been raining cats and dogs here for weeks off and on, drying up now but more heavy rain due overnight, wish is was raining Cox's...
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Post  NEW222 Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:08 pm

Very nice to see them all cleaned up, and now they do reside in a great home where they will be enjoyed and taken care of. I still love watching your bringing a Bee back to life posts, and always will!
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Post  Coxfledgling Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:05 am

I wonder how many baby bees where made, billions ?
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Post  getback Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:57 am

Thanks for the old post ,set me back a 1/2 hr. LOL some good stuff in there ! Babe Bee .049 thats good history where the gentleman was teaching some kids about fling and engines . Leaves Very Happy
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