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Post  Coxfledgling Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:32 am

Just checking but if I soak submerged a peewee 20 minus prop in methalated spirit, purple in colour, for say a week, will the meths damage anything like the glow plug and/or the tank fuel pick up pipe.

Will the red on the tank be attacked.

I don't want to strip this engine which is freely rotating with a good pop and compression. Its not dirty as such, I just want to make sure the crank has no " gum" before I run it on model technics gn15.

It's been stored quite well and well al lubed with model technics after run oil about 22 years ago.

I vaguely remember running it before storage.

Opinions please, glow element and fuel pick up pipe...etc..
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:45 am

If it has good compression, flips easy, and is not very dirty why risk it?  

Many solvents, and cleaners - expecially Simple Green will attack anodizing.  I would just disassemble and check the reed and the gaskets, wash with a mild detergent and warm water, dry well and put it back together and lightly lubricate.  If the crankshafts relief is clogged with dried castor you will have a noticeable drag.  If you think the relief is clogged, pull the crankshaft and check.  

But, you could also hold the engine vertically, add some Remoil (a cleaner and a lubricant) and rotate the prop drive washer several minutes untill the oil comes out clear. But you must blow out the remainder of the Remoil.
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Post  Levent Suberk Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:06 pm

Methylated purple color spirit is 90% ethyl alcohol. It is not harmful for anodizing but all aluminum parts will be darken and a black goo build up within a week. That goo is hard to clean. I tried this with pure ethyl alcohol, not purple colored methylated spirit.
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Post  Coxfledgling Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:17 pm

Ok, thanks, I will have a rethink before I do anything.

UK petrol is now 10per cent , or up to 10per cent ethanol, the change happening in September I think this year, from 5per cent.

I have used UK petrol on a few engines for cleaning this summer with no "side effects" noticed. I have not tried it on a Cox coloured tank. I have not knowing used 10percent petrol yet.

I will have a rethink...thanks.
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Post  Levent Suberk Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:31 pm

Cleaning aluminum with methylated spirits or pure ethyl alcohol do not cause any problem. But soaking for several days is different from cleaning.

Also I use only kerosene for general cleaning, because kerosene is oily. If I need to use naptha (lighter fluid) or alcohol for steel parts, then I immediately oil them with sewing machine oil to prevent rust.
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:17 pm

@Levent Suberk wrote:Cleaning aluminum with methylated spirits or pure ethyl alcohol do not cause any problem. But soaking for several days is different from cleaning.

Also I use only kerosene for general cleaning, because kerosene is oily. If I need to use naptha (lighter fluid) or alcohol for steel parts, then I immediately oil them with sewing machine oil to prevent rust.

Got it, finally - methylated spirits aka here in the states as denatured alcohol. I have it, but seldom use it. I use just plain old 91% alcohol mostly as a final rinse after serious cleaning.

I agree Levent. Long soaks risk harm and usually are not necessary.
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Post  TexasWade Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:43 pm

A little late to the party and no real expert advice here, but I might suggest you try soaking it in your usual glow fuel.

I've done this with several stuck larger engines with 100% success.  I just put a prop on to use as a handle and take out the glow plug, then squirt a little fuel into any openings.  Give it a couple days and gently try to turn the prop a little.   Just did it a couple weeks ago with a nice Webra 3.5CC RC.  I didn't want to take a chance on stripping any screw heads or breaking gaskets etc so I just gave er some time.  Turns over real nice now.  Did it with an HB .40 PDP probably about a year and a half ago, and again with an otherwise very clean TD .09 just a few days ago.  But the .09 just needed maybe an hour to free up. And a Tee Dee .049 that turned but was sort of stiff.  All nice and limber now.

I've had no discoloration or other problems that I can see on any of those engines, and I know I did several that way a few years back with similar results.
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:15 am

Yes, that works, but it's so simple. Must be complicated for us purists. Smile

Actually for badly contaminated engines it takes some aggressive action.
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