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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:24 pm

Juan, you have done a very good job!, very neat!
Thanks for your contribution.
I think the Wen Mac .049 is already at its right point, but you invite me to think.....and maybe I round the original venturi, killing the edge it has, surely something will help, I also plan to place the pressure peak in the butt, so I continue investigating and having fun.
The Wen Mac has an incredible nostalgic charm, it must be because of its shape, its aesthetics. Surely wonderful times of the generation of engines for modellers!
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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:42 pm

I'm looking at photos on the web, it seems common to have a brand registration on the cylinder in these engines, above the number .049 (I indicate it in the photo with arrows)...so I wonder:
1) Will these marks be from some original acceleration control device?
either
2) Will they be factory machining marks??? and no acceleration device originally goes there?!....who knows?

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https://pocatellomarket.com/products/wen-mac-mk-ii-049-model-plane-engine-gas
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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:04 pm

Is there a plan for this beautiful Wen-Mac model...the Aromite??? If anyone has information, I would appreciate it!

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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:21 pm

Juan, Jorge and Horacio, following some of your recommendations, it then occurred to me to improve the venturi inlet, making a ring with rounded edges, through which the air flows better.
Ok, it was worth it, the engine went up to 300 rpm!!..that is to say, it improved.
Here are the photos, this work is dedicated to you! Thanks friends!
Sorry for the quality of the photos, but wanting to do everything together and at the same time is crazy hahaha

PROCESS:

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TEST:

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Post  F4D Phantom II Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:51 pm

Juan, Jorge and Horacio, following some of your recommendations, it then occurred to me to improve the venturi inlet, making a ring with rounded edges, through which the air flows better.
Ok, it was worth it, the engine went up to 300 rpm!!..that is to say, it improved.
Here are the photos, this work is dedicated to you! Thanks friends!
Sorry for the quality of the photos, but wanting to do everything together and at the same time is crazy hahaha

Hello Mauricio
I`m glad you found a way to improve airflow with the venturi lip you made smoothing airflow into the engine and that it has brought better performance from the little engine. I also enjoy working on old engines that I didn`t have as a kid. Cox engines were available at the local hobby shop and that was how I started in Aeromodeling. I don`t remember seeing OK,Wen Mac,Royal Spitfire and Others till later when I was older.
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Post  rdw777 Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:22 am

The vintage Wen Mac with throttle came out very nice Mauricio….. You are very talented to be able to make the custom parts on your lathe….. There should be some here that know more about the Aeromite…. It was a very early ready to fly control line airplane…. Maybe you could build a replica for your engine?
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Post  KariFS Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:15 am

Here’s a thread about Aeromite:

https://www.coxengineforum.com/t10367-wen-mac-cox-s-early-competition

Indeed an early ready-to-fly plastic plane, probably very rare nowadays. I bet Bob (rsv) has at least one Wink A bit special with the speed-racer looks and the later model even had a tricycle landing gear. Mauricio can re-create a slightly enlarged RC version easily, I’m sure Very Happy

MauricioB wrote:I'm looking at photos on the web, it seems common to have a brand registration on the cylinder in these engines, above the number .049 (I indicate it in the photo with arrows)...so I wonder:
1) Will these marks be from some original acceleration control device?
either
2) Will they be factory machining marks??? and no acceleration device originally goes there?!....who knows?

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appointment:
https://pocatellomarket.com/products/wen-mac-mk-ii-049-model-plane-engine-gas

I think those markings are from the machining process. The case is cast, and the cylinder mating surface and mounting thread need to be machined. The outside surface may be for mounting and/or locating the part for correct machining of the thread, or milling/drilling of another machined feature.

Or it could be made just to separate the intake pipe from the cylinder base, but I don’t really think so Huh...

Very nice work on the engine, Mauricio!
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Post  GallopingGhostler Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:21 am

Mauricio, hay una razón que la eficiencia ha aumentado en el venturi del «carburador». La respuesta puede encontrar en la dinámica de fluidos.
Mauricio, there is a reason that the efficieny has increased in the venturi of the "carburetor". The answer can be found in fluid dynamics.

Por ejemplo, vea a este enlace:
For example, see this link:
https://lopezva.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/flujo_tuberias_cap_3_y_4.pdf , las Páginas 25 a 26.

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y https://neutrium.net/fluid-flow/pressure-loss-from-pipe-entrances-and-exits/ en inglés. (in English)
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Por simplicidad, use esta entrada de borde quadrado para la condición inicial.
For simplicity, use Flush/Square-Edged entrance for the initial condition.

El factor K, el Coeficiente de resistencia es 0.5 .
The K-factor, Resistance Coefficient is 0.5 .

Entonces redondeaste el borde interior de la entrada.
Then you rounded the inner edge of the entrance.

Suponiendo por ejemplo, r = 0.5 mm, D = 5.0 mm, r/d = 0.2, entonces K = 0.04 .
Supposing for example,  r = 0.5 mm, D = 5.0 mm, r/d = 0.2, entonces K = 0.04 .

La resistencia es mucho menos. Por lo tanto, la efficiencia de la entrada ha aumentado.
The resistance is much less. Thus, the efficiency of the entrance has increased.
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Post  getback Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:44 am

I think the Medallion spray bar gave a better response that the one you made ( still worked good ) I have heard that the best pressure tap would bee on the side of CC tail / end fair/ and at Crank shaft not as good . The sleeve worked good for some extra RPMs Cool !
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Post  MauricioB Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:21 pm

Friends, thank you for the valuable information!!, all extremely useful.
Kari, yes I agree, it is possible that the marks are a record of machining, which inspired my imagination to make the regulation ring....so great!
Jorge, very good information!!....then I started working again on the venturi, below are the processes!
Eric, dear friend, yes, the Medallion .049 spray bar seems to be what keeps the engine running most stable, so I'll leave that placed there.
Robert! and Juan... then I made a pressure peak, which you will see in the photos. You have to do test runs to see how it turns out.
I colored the regulation ring (cold peacock), just to add color.
The engine changed its appearance completely since its inception and it really now looks like a competitive engine, with less rough lines and more aesthetics, (at least in my eyes)....A customized Wen-Mac .049...I'll do it now fly God willing!
I am learning a lot thanks to you.

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Inserted and pasted:

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Manufacture of pressure peak, if it is not better, I can remove it and place a round head threaded screw as a cap:

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Finished!...time to test the result!....coming soon

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Post  MauricioB Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:54 am

Well friends, so I did the start-up and the experience.

With pressure peak, (with pressurizer):
The engine floods, I almost completely close the needle and when the engine rotates it sends a lot of pressure to the tank and the engine floods, it cannot start.

Without pressure peak, (without pressurizer):
The engine runs perfect, the rpm increases. It reached a peak of 13950, therefore it improved with the reform of the venturi.
The engine no longer has an erratic running pattern, it has become much more stable in rpm, which suggests that the air flow is much more even, without great turbulence.
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Conclusion:
Permanently remove the pressure peak and manufacture a specific plug for the engine plate, a piece with dedication so that it is truly part of the engine and not a simple threaded screw.
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I reached the end then with the Wen-Mac .049, all the work has been very pleasant and this engine generated a special affection in me, since every modification was noticeably improving the performance of the engine itself.
It's time to go get a model airplane to test it in flight.
Here are now the Cox .049 r/c with silencer and the Wen-Mac .049 r/c, waiting for me to get to work on a plane they will share.
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Post  roddie Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:54 am

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Mauricio, Maybe you could make a wrench/tool (see my drawing below) to remove/install the engine's backplate?


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Post  MauricioB Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:39 pm

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Mauricio, Maybe you could make a wrench/tool (see my drawing below) to remove/install the engine's backplate?


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Roddie, to remove and install the rear plate I use a Cox wrench, it works very well!

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